AIBU to be slightly enjoying remainers explode with rage.

I am out too, this is a disgusting, nasty thread, and when I wonder why this country is in the mess it is in, I only have to read this to know why. Ignorant comments from some, not all of course of the Brexiteers, and a complete lack of understanding of the constitutional emergency. I cannot even begin to explain how angry and upset I am. Bye

fishermen are now realising that No Deal will not help them at all, au contraire ...

but even if there were to be a few winners (apart from the tax evaders who rely on tax havens, and those who profit massively from the fall of Sterling, etc- you know, those in Government and their mates, including the ones who are setting up contracts with Trump and others) - you need to look at the overall picture - and the numbers who will lose, big time - mostly the weakest and poorest in society.

And if the fisherman's wife becomes very ill, or his child - what do you think he will prefer?

So, I'll take a guess - and then give this place a very wide birth. Too nasty, too inhumane, too callous - don't want this stuff in my life. Ciao.

Corbyn!

Jeremy Cornyn, Diane Abbott, John Mcdonell , members of momentum?

Jura2 Opal: ' what are "my values"?'

we can only guess Opal. The values of someone who is prepared to allow people to really suffer, be it in losing their job, losing their farm, losing their right to live in the country where their family is, where they have been for a lifetime, working hard, contributing. The values of someone who is prepared for people not to get their lifesaving medicines or treatment (never mind HRT), and to see the country going down the shute and becoming vassals of Trump- with all the lowering of standards for the foods we eat, and puts our lives at risk with hormone and antibotics feed cattle and chlorinated chickens - never mind the husbandry and welfare issues, and on, and on.

Tell that to British fishermen, Jura!

Spanielnanny, no one else sees the point you make how it affects the passing of other much-needed legislation. I'm sorry those who think it a good idea, to silence the mother of all Parliaments to get your way , and remember what happened when Charles 1 dismissed Parliament as they didn't do what he wanted, it's not the act of a Parliamentarian, Tony Benn has been mentioned, can't help thinking he'd be thinking if he was still with us
I don't know if OP is a racist, certainly I've never called her that, but if anyone acts in a racist way, and has racist attitudes it doesn't matter what people do or do not call them, their actions show they are racist. The only way to not show yourself as racist is not to do or say racist things or act in a racist way. Then no one will even suspect you are.

Kandinsky what a nasty goady post. Shame on you

Forums seem to bring out the very worst in some people. I'm sure that they can't be so awful in real life. My family has a majority of leavers and a few remainers. We're all adults, all friends and respect each other's views and reasons. We can easily discuss without name-calling and it certainly isn't a competition with winners and losers!

Ursmston : 'Mightn’t it be wiser to just stop posting on this thread?'

oh yes please.

Believe me growstuff, your condescension doesn't bother me at all, it's all so predictable, it's really rather amusing. As you say, we have nothing in common, thank goodness. Please carry on being judge, jury and executioner, it really rather suits your posts.

Now that's a new one GGMK3 - "psychotic". I don't think I've heard leavers being described in that way before, maybe we should all be institutionalised for our views?

Great to see so many leavers joining the argument, about time.

Opal: ' what are "my values"?'

we can only guess Opal. The values of someone who is prepared to allow people to really suffer, be it in losing their job, losing their farm, losing their right to live in the country where their family is, where they have been for a lifetime, working hard, contributing. The values of someone who is prepared for people not to get their lifesaving medicines or treatment (never mind HRT), and to see the country going down the shute and becoming vassals of Trump- with all the lowering of standards for the foods we eat, and puts our lives at risk with hormone and antibotics feed cattle and chlorinated chickens - never mind the husbandry and welfare issues, and on, and on.

We can only guess - and it does not look good. This is not a snide, nor an insult- just fact.

Sorry it is a nasty post. And as for calling remainers remoaners, remember that we had a referendum back in the 1970s which decided to remain back then. Ever since then there have been people moaning about leaving, moaning for40 years.... showing that if you go on about something long enough you'll get another vote. Just following in their footsteps really

That could depend who or what you are describing as "far-left".

Perhaps you could clarify Jabberwok, then someone could try to give an answer.

And will introduce a period of unregulated capitalism with the extension of zero hours contracts, even more tax evasion and a low pay economy. But hey it's only poor people who will suffer.

Because the far right government of the UK is a very scary prospect!

Once again why are the far left so keen on the capitalist EU?!!

"Unfortunately there are many MPs determined to stop Brexit happening at all, and they dress it up as just objecting to a no deal escape."

JenniferEccles why is it "unfortunate" that people have a different view to you? I haven't seen anyone dressing up the fact that they don't want the UK to leave EU. It seems to me they have said it loudly, clearly and often. There are others with a more centrist view. Again, why are they not allowed to hold that view and why suggest that is not their view. When did we not only get closed down not only on offering our point of view but even thinking it?

You make it sound like some sort of thought crime. If that is what you want I suggest you should be careful what you wish for.

"Does anyone remember when the International Monetary Fund were in Britain every few months to bail/sort us out? All pre-EU membership. "

Hi there, Candelle.

We joined the EU in 1973.

The Labour Government applied to the IMF in 1976.

Mightn’t it be wiser to just stop posting on this thread?

All that rejoicing because people will lose their jobs, small farmers will be obliterated, we will be vassals of Trump. Marvellous. Still millionaire tax dodgers can rip up the EU tax avoidance legislation and move all their money in euros as many have done already. And back to IRA bombs even better.

Although I do see the original poster’s point it’s important to remember that we haven’t actually left yet.

Unfortunately there are many MPs determined to stop Brexit happening at all, and they dress it up as just objecting to a no deal escape.

I will rejoice properly only once we have left.

It’s not attractive to be a sore loser and take your anger out on people who just voted a different way from you. But Kadinsky that is exactly what you are doing.

The pot calling the kettle black is the phrase that springs to mind. Can you think of any cause anywhere ever where both sides have not included an unpleasant lunatic fringe?

I am so sorry that someone said something nasty to you and upset you, let me offer you the compassion and love you so surely deserve.

I think the OP is being mischievous.

I am a Remainer - not a Remoaner. I don't moan, merely think that we are in a perilous state and all because of lies meted out to us by our politicians.

I believe that incorrect statistics/'facts' were bandied about at the time of the referendum and these were believed and thought true by many, hence the narrow victory for 'Leave'.

However, as the years have trundled by, it has been shown that many of these statistics were inaccurate and now some Leavers have changed their mind; if there were another vote (which there probably won't be) I wonder if the Remain vote would prevail. I'll never know.

Does anyone remember when the International Monetary Fund were in Britain every few months to bail/sort us out? All pre-EU membership.

A question for Leave voters: are you stocking up on anything?

Those who believe that human rights and employment laws will be enshrined in UK law are wrong I'm sad to say. There are no guarantees that will happen. Laws can be repealed and if the present government want that to happen, it will, provided that they have a sufficient majority.

No Tony Benn was very against joining Europe, as was Enoch Powell!! The only time they shared a platform, understandably!!!! At that time of course we were told emphatically that it was a Trade block, and would never ever be anything but that! In those days of course we believed our politicians! How wrong we were!! If it were still just a trade block, I'm sure most of us would be perfectly happy to remain, I know I would, it's what it's become that is the problem!!