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Please could someone tell me why I should be really worried about Brexit with no deal

(154 Posts)
Gonegirl Thu 29-Aug-19 14:28:41

I'm not worrying enough.

What's going to happen?

sodapop Thu 29-Aug-19 16:27:57

Health care concerns for those of us who live outside the UK.

Gillybob is right it does depend on how you and yours will be affected, so many unknown factors still.

Urmstongran Thu 29-Aug-19 16:30:48

‘Talentless’? You jest beau!

Boris’ team are stellar and running rings around those trying to railroad Brexit. They are up and running with the ball now and they can see the finish line tantalisingly close.

63 days.

varian Thu 29-Aug-19 16:33:50

"According to Ug "YellowHammer was drawn up in July under the request of Timid May and Eeyore Hammond, who at the time, wasn’t and hadn’t released enough money from the public coffers to ameliorate No Deal."

The work to prepare the document may have started when TM was PM but it was revised under the auspices of the present BJ regime. The date on the docvument was August 2019.

BlueBelle Thu 29-Aug-19 16:34:54

Do you realise how many voted to change the lives of 65,000,000 a tiny tiny percentage and yet we should just sit back and let it happen
And do you know what when bad things do happen leavers will shout from the highest hills that it’s the EUs fault
I m amazed if you voted remain gonegirl that you seem so ambivalent about it all

SirChenjin Thu 29-Aug-19 16:35:08

No, she's quite right - they're talentless. It's not over yet, 63 days, a Parliamentary minority for BJ and a concerted effort from a united front. Things have a horrible habit of going tits up when we get too ahead of ourselves.

Kapitan Thu 29-Aug-19 16:36:31

Only the overtly paranoid commie/socialist/green/Sinn Fein loving/ liberal elite / Guardian reading Europhilic collaborators are worried. Chill out with the proroguing!

Urmstongran Thu 29-Aug-19 16:37:04

Yes the 1st August, varian!

Honestly you’d think rickets, scurvy, the workhouse, hobnail boots, no shoes and the streets awash with home made "gin" are on the way!

Jabberwok Thu 29-Aug-19 16:38:49

MP's have brought this totally on themselves! They've spent over three years systematically trying to bring Brexit down! despite a good majority voting to deliver and signing article 50 in the first place. helped by the Speaker whose made no secret what his preference is! Duplicitous, self promoting , devious? No doubt Boris is all these, but my goodness pots and kettles come to mind in shedloads!! They want a deal? We have a deal, but of course its unacceptable,as any deal will be! So we're left with no deal, Thank you, you hypocritical MP's,thanks a bunch!!

varian Thu 29-Aug-19 16:42:17

Canadian Peter Watson, writing two months ago, warned us what a Johnson premiership could mean:-

"Boris Johnson's Trump act spells disaster for broken Britain"

" Johnson has made a career of lies and untruths. He was sacked early in his career from his job as a columnist for The Times, a job he got through family connections, after making up quotes in a front page story about the discovery of Edward II’s Rose Palace. He later wrote for The Daily Telegraph, another British newspaper with right-wing leanings, in which he offered the opinion that women who wear burqas and hijabs look “ridiculous,” like "letter boxes" and "bank robbers."

A leading Brexiteer, Johnson is accused of lying to voters during the campaign to leave the European Union. It’s rumoured that he's not that popular within his own Conservative party, but he’s nevertheless viewed as the "best hope" to beat Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn in the next general election.

I can recall a time in British politics when scandal and bad behaviour would send politicians into the wilderness to lick their wounds. The days when the notorious UK press enjoyed nothing more than catching an MP involved in an affair are long gone. Perhaps we had a far too puritanical view of what was expected of world leaders.

Brexit has changed all that. It has broken the UK and immersed the country in a constitutional crisis. Politics today is all about subterfuge and divide and conquer. And accountability is a word whose meaning is slowly disappearing."

nowtoronto.com/news/theresa-may-boris-johnson-donald-trump-brexit/

vissos Thu 29-Aug-19 16:55:01

There is no point in worrying about what might happen. If you know what will happen, you could do what you can to prepare for it. If you don't know, there's nothing you can do.
Whatever, if you're not worried, no point in starting now!

SirChenjin Thu 29-Aug-19 17:42:40

If everyone thought that like we'd still be sending children up chimneys or putting slaves on ships. It's by worrying about and questionning things that we move forward and hold those in authority to account.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 29-Aug-19 17:57:00

SirChen you have made some excellent points especially when it all goes tits up the leavers will then start moaning. They are just burying then heads in the sand shouting leave means leave.

Gonegirl Thu 29-Aug-19 18:19:23

Bluebell my daughters spent their schooldays in a European School. It was good. They enjoyed having European friends. I like Europe.

Maybe I voted by instinct.

Gonegirl Thu 29-Aug-19 18:20:59

I'm amazed if you voted remain gonegirl...

Why the if?

Joyfulnanna Thu 29-Aug-19 18:39:04

Our mistake was being reasonable and expecting Europe to negotiate. They've showed their true colours by interferring with our internal policitics (N. I) and we've allowed them to dictate what they want in the deal. We need to call their bluff and say we'll leave without a deal, that way we will get one on our terms. That said, it's all very confusing about whether Theresa's deal was mostly good. I expect it was but noe the talking must be limited and Boris must get on with the job in hand. I'm ashamed of our policitians though.

Dinahmo Thu 29-Aug-19 18:52:44

Joyfulnana The EU are following the rules for what happens when a country leaves, They are not being unreasonable.

As regards NI - they are concerned about Eire - one of their member states. After all, one of their reasons to exist is to protect member states. They want to protect the Good Friday agreement which concerns Eire as well as Northern Ireland. If I remember rightly there have been some IRA bombs recently in NI.

mcem Thu 29-Aug-19 18:56:34

Interfering with our internal politics (NI)
What on earth does that mean?
The Irish border would be the only land border between UK ( or preferably RUK) and the EU.
SO significant customs problems might result.
That could open the door to IRA resurgence, terrorist bombs (remember the early 70's?)
Farmers in NI are worried sick that their businesses could be ruined!
Look at the history of Ireland and dismiss this issue as minor domestic politics? It's part of an international crisis brought sought by self-serving international power-mongers
We'll get a good deal on our own terms?
Who are you kidding??

mcem Thu 29-Aug-19 18:58:15

'International crisis brought about by' etc.

lemongrove Thu 29-Aug-19 19:22:40

Jabberwok hear hear! ?

PamelaJ1 Thu 29-Aug-19 19:30:58

OK Bluebelle and Humpty Dumpty.
If you can give me something tangible to worry about then I may try and worry.
I find it incredibly hard to worry about huge things that are too big to contemplate and which are conjecture, not fact.

I worried if one of my children was late home but I didn’t worry when they went travelling because they were beyond my help.

Brexit and it’s consequences are beyond me. Obviously they aren’t beyond you two. I maybe all right jack, I may not.
I’ll worry about it if/when it happens.

SirChenjin Thu 29-Aug-19 19:44:03

It’s by worrying about the consequences of things that we affect change. Perhaps worrying is the wrong word - perhaps deeply concerned is more appropriate.

Jane10 Thu 29-Aug-19 19:56:20

I see the pound recovered strongly after Boris's pronouncement. Interesting. Business tends to put its money where its mouth is. There must be more confidence being felt in the economy.

etheltbags1 Thu 29-Aug-19 20:04:25

Im not worried at all. I dont understand politics anyway. I will keep my nose in a book until ita all over i cant see anything to worry about. Let those with qualifications get on with it

Gonegirl Thu 29-Aug-19 20:07:12

If we get civil unrest (not civil war hmm) do you think Boris will get his water cannons back? Who did he flog them to?

SirChenjin Thu 29-Aug-19 20:10:21

Value of the pound here - hardly a strong recovery

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