Just another attempt to inflame the situation Gone Girl. Now there's no surprise.
Sometimes it’s just the small things that press the bruise isn’t it? 😢
Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.
I'm not worrying enough.
What's going to happen?
Just another attempt to inflame the situation Gone Girl. Now there's no surprise.
It doesn’t help MissA....not ‘the cause’ or indeed the person themselves.
I'm not sure how being deeply concerned actually helps at all, and I'm not being facetious.
What does that actually do?
Signing petitions, marching, demonstrating, yes.
Deep concern? Hmmm.
Value of the pound here - hardly a strong recovery
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If we get civil unrest (not civil war
) do you think Boris will get his water cannons back? Who did he flog them to?
Im not worried at all. I dont understand politics anyway. I will keep my nose in a book until ita all over i cant see anything to worry about. Let those with qualifications get on with it
I see the pound recovered strongly after Boris's pronouncement. Interesting. Business tends to put its money where its mouth is. There must be more confidence being felt in the economy.
It’s by worrying about the consequences of things that we affect change. Perhaps worrying is the wrong word - perhaps deeply concerned is more appropriate.
OK Bluebelle and Humpty Dumpty.
If you can give me something tangible to worry about then I may try and worry.
I find it incredibly hard to worry about huge things that are too big to contemplate and which are conjecture, not fact.
I worried if one of my children was late home but I didn’t worry when they went travelling because they were beyond my help.
Brexit and it’s consequences are beyond me. Obviously they aren’t beyond you two. I maybe all right jack, I may not.
I’ll worry about it if/when it happens.
Jabberwok hear hear! ?
'International crisis brought about by' etc.
Interfering with our internal politics (NI)
What on earth does that mean?
The Irish border would be the only land border between UK ( or preferably RUK) and the EU.
SO significant customs problems might result.
That could open the door to IRA resurgence, terrorist bombs (remember the early 70's?)
Farmers in NI are worried sick that their businesses could be ruined!
Look at the history of Ireland and dismiss this issue as minor domestic politics? It's part of an international crisis brought sought by self-serving international power-mongers
We'll get a good deal on our own terms?
Who are you kidding??
Joyfulnana The EU are following the rules for what happens when a country leaves, They are not being unreasonable.
As regards NI - they are concerned about Eire - one of their member states. After all, one of their reasons to exist is to protect member states. They want to protect the Good Friday agreement which concerns Eire as well as Northern Ireland. If I remember rightly there have been some IRA bombs recently in NI.
Our mistake was being reasonable and expecting Europe to negotiate. They've showed their true colours by interferring with our internal policitics (N. I) and we've allowed them to dictate what they want in the deal. We need to call their bluff and say we'll leave without a deal, that way we will get one on our terms. That said, it's all very confusing about whether Theresa's deal was mostly good. I expect it was but noe the talking must be limited and Boris must get on with the job in hand. I'm ashamed of our policitians though.
I'm amazed if you voted remain gonegirl...
Why the if?
Bluebell my daughters spent their schooldays in a European School. It was good. They enjoyed having European friends. I like Europe.
Maybe I voted by instinct.
SirChen you have made some excellent points especially when it all goes tits up the leavers will then start moaning. They are just burying then heads in the sand shouting leave means leave.
If everyone thought that like we'd still be sending children up chimneys or putting slaves on ships. It's by worrying about and questionning things that we move forward and hold those in authority to account.
There is no point in worrying about what might happen. If you know what will happen, you could do what you can to prepare for it. If you don't know, there's nothing you can do.
Whatever, if you're not worried, no point in starting now!
Canadian Peter Watson, writing two months ago, warned us what a Johnson premiership could mean:-
"Boris Johnson's Trump act spells disaster for broken Britain"
" Johnson has made a career of lies and untruths. He was sacked early in his career from his job as a columnist for The Times, a job he got through family connections, after making up quotes in a front page story about the discovery of Edward II’s Rose Palace. He later wrote for The Daily Telegraph, another British newspaper with right-wing leanings, in which he offered the opinion that women who wear burqas and hijabs look “ridiculous,” like "letter boxes" and "bank robbers."
A leading Brexiteer, Johnson is accused of lying to voters during the campaign to leave the European Union. It’s rumoured that he's not that popular within his own Conservative party, but he’s nevertheless viewed as the "best hope" to beat Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn in the next general election.
I can recall a time in British politics when scandal and bad behaviour would send politicians into the wilderness to lick their wounds. The days when the notorious UK press enjoyed nothing more than catching an MP involved in an affair are long gone. Perhaps we had a far too puritanical view of what was expected of world leaders.
Brexit has changed all that. It has broken the UK and immersed the country in a constitutional crisis. Politics today is all about subterfuge and divide and conquer. And accountability is a word whose meaning is slowly disappearing."
nowtoronto.com/news/theresa-may-boris-johnson-donald-trump-brexit/
MP's have brought this totally on themselves! They've spent over three years systematically trying to bring Brexit down! despite a good majority voting to deliver and signing article 50 in the first place. helped by the Speaker whose made no secret what his preference is! Duplicitous, self promoting , devious? No doubt Boris is all these, but my goodness pots and kettles come to mind in shedloads!! They want a deal? We have a deal, but of course its unacceptable,as any deal will be! So we're left with no deal, Thank you, you hypocritical MP's,thanks a bunch!!
Yes the 1st August, varian!
Honestly you’d think rickets, scurvy, the workhouse, hobnail boots, no shoes and the streets awash with home made "gin" are on the way!
Only the overtly paranoid commie/socialist/green/Sinn Fein loving/ liberal elite / Guardian reading Europhilic collaborators are worried. Chill out with the proroguing!
No, she's quite right - they're talentless. It's not over yet, 63 days, a Parliamentary minority for BJ and a concerted effort from a united front. Things have a horrible habit of going tits up when we get too ahead of ourselves.
Do you realise how many voted to change the lives of 65,000,000 a tiny tiny percentage and yet we should just sit back and let it happen
And do you know what when bad things do happen leavers will shout from the highest hills that it’s the EUs fault
I m amazed if you voted remain gonegirl that you seem so ambivalent about it all
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