The Real Prime Minister

But Jane10 Of course it makes it right. My DH knows everything (or so he keeps telling me)

At one point earlier this year our local Tory MP and member of ERG was threatened with deselection because he had voted for TM's deal. There were notices put up locally inviting everyone to join the Conservative Party and vote to deselect him.

Might as well be Brexit Central will be in charge of Tory deselections

Anyone remember all the pearl clutching and ranting that went on about Labour de-selection?

growstuff Conservative Central are taking the whip hand over de-selection.

I don't think Campbell or even Milne and McCluskey are in the same league as Cummings, who seems to be pursuing his own agenda. I think Johnson is vain and loves the thrill of being in power. He's known to be lazy about details and strategy, but he's not stupid. Hopefully, it's a question of time before somebody takes him to one side and tells him he's being increasingly isolated and losing whatever appeal he had.

I still think that he'll walk away from it all and live to tell the tale at dinner parties and on talk shows of when he was PM and what a gas it all was.

Iam64.

Don’t think you’re being very fair saying David Cameron swanned off and has done nothing since being PM.
I read yesterday his book is being published on September 19th, bought for a reputed £800,000. Must have kept him busy in his shepherd’s hut, probably hasn’t had time to listen to the news the last three years.

Trisher I think the Conservative Party has a better tradition of hiding its dirty washing.

From what I know (and admittedly it's fairly limited), selection of candidates is the responsibility of local Conservative parties. There is some evidence of entryism in the local parties from right-wingers. Nevertheless, the local parties know what's going on and the Conservatives are in danger of losing traditional voters.

Before the last election, Conservative Central Office gave the local party in my constituency a list of shortlisted candidates and told them to choose. One of them was the obvious preferred choice. There was a great deal of resentment in the local party and they chose a candidate who wasn't the preferred one, almost as a matter of principle.

The feeling seems to be that the central party might be able to impose its own candidates but it's going to lose grassroots support, which could be critical in marginal seats. The Labour Party and LDs already have better "armies" on the ground than the Conservatives do, so grassroots support is important.

It was Scottish Private Fraser not Corporal Jones who was the doomful soothsayer !

jane10 some Leavers recognise that democracy is under threat and that No Deal will be a disaster for the country.
As for Cummings after all the hot air posted on GN about Momentum and deselection I would have expected a huge outcry about his statement. But there isn't.
It seems the right can have a single person calling the shots whereas the left can't even have a grassroots movement doing it! Mind you historically the right have a history of allowing dictatorships.
As for an effective opposition. Of course there is one. Some people are just too biased to see it.

You’re right Jane10 - my DH said the same about Alistair Campbell and I pooh-poohed!

That doesn't necessarily make it true though KatyK!

It's either that or Johnson has had a whole persona transplant.

Looking at his past history does anyone really associate this utterly ruthless streak with Johnson?

Double sigh, Jane.

If the referendum result had not been rendered unsafe by undemocratic practices, cheating, and illegality, I expect more people would accept it.

Unfortunately the whole thing has also been a cock up from start to finish which makes it even more difficult to accept.

I suspect that Cummings might soon discover that bending a whole nation to his will is not quite as easy as he thinks it is.

That doesn't necessarily make it true though KatyK!

I don't take much of an interest in all this (I know I should) but DH keeps saying that Cummings is the real PM.

Sigh. Brexit was the democratically chosen outcome of the referendum. I was a remain voter but accept this outcome. Its those protesters who are being undemocratic.

Interesting that several people on twitter this morning are saying that there were Leavers at the protests they were on. Leavers also protesting at Cummings' undemocratic plan.

I think that could make a GE more interesting and possibly more unpredictable. Instead of being about Brexit it might well be about not voting for the party that is bent on destroying our Parliamentary democracy.

Same person, Ww2

Ug hasn't been around for long enough to know...

Oh! Sorry brain fog! I meant Lemons

Who is roses?

Just accept the deal and get on with it. Prolonging the agony by all this protest is getting us nowhere.

Well, in 2017 with the Labour Party more than twenty points behind in the opinion polls it was being stated by many political analysts that the country did not have a strong, viable or effective opposition in Parliament.

With that "guaranteed" knowledge Theresa May called a General Election designed to wipe out the Labour Party in the House of Commons. Well, the rest is now electoral history, and May lost the Tory Party their overall majority in Parliament.

Much of that happening was put down to Jeremy Corbyn's performance on the campaign trail and he proved he still has that within him with his "they have no answers" speech in Parliament Square during the Trump visit a few weeks back.

General Election, many in the Labour movement will be shouting, " bring it on" I believe.

Urmstongran I truly hope you are correct and "It’ll all settle down after 31 October" but I suspect the truth will be far, far worse, and I feel lucky to be on my way out, though it be in hunger, pain and poverty, because my children and grandchildren may well suffer in ways the Leavers haven't begun to think of.
I fear "Hell in a handcart" doesn't even start to describe it!!

ug you sound like roses????