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(24 Posts)Actually he called Dr Nicol a "Remoaner"
JRM is Despicable
Rees-Mogg on LBC earlier saying the Doctor who wrote some of the Government’s Yellowhammer report on the disastrous effects of Brexit on the NHS, should be ashamed
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"It's deeply irresponsible Dr Nicol for you to call in and try to spread fear across the country. It's typical of Remainer campaigners and you should be quite ashamed."
Mogg himself should be ashamed for deliberately trying to suppress the truth.
It’s shocking that Civil Servants trying to write accurate, truthful reports as instructed by the Government, are being silenced and considered traitors for not being “on message”.
The Government now decides which carefully researched facts are truth, while inconvenient facts are censored.
Shades of “1984”?
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It's not difficult to find and read the foreign press Lessismore though of course language may be a problem for some.
My question was to lemon, who speaks for Europe somehow?
Numerous surveys and polls.
How do you know?
Since the fraudulent referendum in the UK in 2016, the other 27 member countries of the EU have had record levels of support for their membership of the EU.
The rest of Europe ( contrary to what many GNers fondly like to think) are not besotted with the UK and it’s politics, they are having trying times of their own and their own concerns and politics etc.
Actually WW2 just reading again and realising it's not you but from an article, my points still stand. An unbelievable and shocking moment in the UK. We must be a laughing stock in the rest of Europe.
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WWM2 doesn’t have a tough job ( or any job?)
It’s a piece from the Guardian!
Whitewave thanks for posting and you have my sympathies for being in the middle of all this, your job must be tough. Equally tough, the suggestion that you might have to take a moral stance, it used to be that the professionalism and neutrality of the civil service kept the country running while inept and dishonest ministers tried to wreck things.
As for these endless people posting variations on 'I'm sure it'll all work out for the best' (Candide lives again!), their faith in the right wing press and their own simple minds, devoid of real knowledge flabberghasts me. And they'll never admit they were wrong even when they're eating dry bread and haven't had fresh fruit for weeks!
The Leave Liars have always been good at the sloganising, but that is all, and even those who were conned in 2016 are now beginning to see through the lies.
lessismore I believe that has been going on since the referendum - remember the accusation by leavers of remainers' so-called project fear?
I don't understand why anybody who isn't cook a hoop with optimism re Brexit is a gloom bucket.
Perhaps that was before the prorogue announcement, Urmstongran?
Oh god I knew you were going to ask me that! It was a few days ago and I read 3 newspapers a day.
I may be gone awhile ....
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Dictatorship by referendum.
ug it would be good if you could copy and paste a civil servants alternative viewpoint. Makes for good discussion.
Peter and Margaret ?
Ye gods, it’s too early for me obviously ha!
Prime Minister.
Thanks for posting this whitewave. It hasn’t cheered me up at all. Talk about living in interesting times. One of the most depressing things for me, is hearing comments that suggest it’s positive because “ Leave means Leave and at least they’re doing something”. At what cost to democracy, even if we forget the costs we face in leaving with no deal (or leaving at all )
I’d read that many in the Civil Service were feeling upbeat and motivated after the change of Peter and Margaret with a sense of optimism and direction now.
Obviously depends on an individual’s perception of events!
There are gloom buckets everywhere.
A long read curtesy of the Guardian.
Prorogation is actually not a bad word for helping to describe the casual cruelty with which our political biosphere is being systematically gaslighted.
Like the moral fabric of any self-respecting cabinet minister, this word is exceedingly flexible. It can be a noun when describing Boris Johnson’s evolution from bumbling amateur to bumbling pro rogue. It can be an adjective, too. As in, do you think people like Dominic Cummings should be the heart of government? “Why yes, I’m actually pro-rogue.”
I’m one of the thousands of Yellowhammered civil servants working on no-deal preparations who had to prorogue their disbelief this week. We congregated around the screens of colleagues – subconsciously huddling together like emperor penguins – as we followed Twitter and various live-feeds reporting that Johnson had actually done what he repeatedly said he didn’t want to do, what many of his inner sanctum insisted he would never do, and what his legal team repeatedly assured Gina Miller he certainly didn’t intend to do.
None of us is in any doubt about what’s just happened. This shutting down of accountability may be dressed up in the language of prorogation, and dignified by arcane royal pageantry. But it can’t disguise the smirking, smug sense of reckless entitlement that stinks of the worst kind of Bullingdon Club blowout. This is constitutional vandalism, and everyone knows it.
Yes, yes, we’ve all got outrage fatigue. But I’ve genuinely never seen my colleagues so dismayed, so angry and – somehow worst of all – so disorientated. And after already enduring two rounds of Yellowhammer, that’s saying something. What’s going on?
There is a well-established line of accountability that connects us with the public, and it’s being rubbed out at the worst possible time
First, the prorogation crisis, the ascendance of Bozzymandias and the existential meteorite of no-deal Brexit have combined to hammer civil service morale, making us less resilient at every level. Those at the top, like HMRC’s Jon Thompson and the no-deal planning wunderkind Tom Shinner, have the luxury of leaving to go to less volatile public sector jobs or into the private sector. Those in the middle, like me, are wondering whether the Brexit clusterbùrach can be cleared up by the time we retire. Those at the bottom are wondering what sort of contractual hell awaits them if Brexit’s dark Gandalf gets his shot to remake government.
Second, the mood inside the civil service has changed, particularly here at the heart of no-deal planning operations. We feel like we’ve been betrayed, not just as demoralised workers trying to complete a Sisyphean task but as citizens too. Civil servants aren’t elected, but there is a well-established line of accountability that connects us with the public, and it’s being rubbed out at the worst possible time
As the redoubtable Hilary Benn tweeted, if parliament’s doors are closed select committees won’t be able to meet to hold our ministers’ feet to the fire on how they’re spending no-deal billions. Members of parliament won’t be able to submit parliamentary questions about exactly what we’re doing with those billions. That’s a horrid precedent which isn’t good for the civil service in the long run. And it’s certainly not good for you, the public.
‘We’re not bothered by protesters – most of us have had to run the gauntlet past hi-vis caballeros of every stripe and persuasion just to get to work.’ Photograph: Amer Ghazzal/REX/Shutterstock
Third, we feel exposed to a damaging tsunami of blame that is surely around the corner. Civil servants can handle a bit of aggro – either from pissed-off ministers or members of the public. We’ve grown used to the Sturm und Drang of Brexit. We’re not bothered by protesters – most of us have had to run the gauntlet past hi-vis caballeros of every stripe and persuasion just to get to work.
But what is new is the open question of whether we can, or should, obey ministerial instructions to facilitate a no-deal Brexit. Many of us were shocked to hear Bob Kerslake, until 2014 the head of the civil service, suggest that civil servants should “examine their consciences” and consider “putting its stewardship of the country ahead of service to the government”.
Only one person can avert a no-deal Brexit. And that’s Boris Johnson
That’s unprecedented. It’s one thing to hear senior civil servants – unsure if they can do their jobs properly without parliamentary assent – openly wonder if they’d be better off joining the protesters outside. But it’s quite another for an ex-civil service chief to imply they should be able to choose which policies to implement. As I said back in March, as civil servants we must not do that – now least of all – or we will never be trusted ever again. I’m glad that union bosses were quick to slap Lord Kerslake down.
What’s next? Some MPs – like Lloyd Russell-Moyle – are calling for a general strike. Most senior union figures will be rightfully fearful of proposing this, wary that this option too would risk the public’s wrath.
I agree. A rogue prime minister is bad enough. A rogue civil service won’t have a hope of keeping Britain’s lights on if the reanimated corpse of no deal strikes this Halloween. And heaven help us then.
• The civil servant works in a Whitehall department and was part of Operation Yellowhammer
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