NO DEAL is the only way. The EU 'wrote' the WA Agreement.

Davidhs

I find it barely believable that you claim that denying medicines to leave voters is ‘an interesting concept but flawed,’ as if it is actually a reasonable suggestion. Which dictatorship would you prefer us to model ourselves on?

You are making an outrageous suggestion, absolutely outrageous, as if it is a viable suggestion. Unbelievable!

Deny medicines to leave voters, that’s an interesting concept but flawed. Not many leavers are going to admit to voting that way, when it in their interest not to.

I’ve had an enjoyable morning with friends, mostly leavers complaining about the current Boris/Brexit mess, reminding them it was all their fault for voting leave. LOL

I would not expect Farage and co to stop peddling their lies

The Brexit Party makes no bones about wanting to take us out of the EU.

It believes the WA is unacceptable, and so do MPs. No lies there. (So why the delay when they know the EU WONT negotiate?)

His only policy is the UK exit from the EU (no cover-up or deception) and that is what the people voted for.

This is a threat to every party, and I am glad he is waiting in the wings.

form a cross-party committee of MPs and other stakeholders to start again

In principle that sounds fine humptydumpty but why do I get the feeling that that committee will just repeat what has gone before in Parliament? More time consuming debate and disagreement.

Only when we leave with no deal will we be able to correct any miscalculations and discrepancies. It will be in the EU's interests to sort out the NI border dispute, in agreement with the UK.

All that is being achieved at the moment is limbo, a no man's land in which businesses suffer and people become extremely annoyed by parliament and Remainer MPs' desire to stop Brexit.

I agree humptydumpty. I would like to see Article 50 revoked, followed by a general election and a period of several years where the new government was able to concentrate on all the things that have been neglected during the last three and a bit years because of the brexit nonsense.

Of course, I would not expect Farage and co to stop peddling their lies, but I think there should be a well funded public information campaign to enlighten folk who only read the right-wing tabloids.

At some time there may be the need to have a secong referendum to knock the brexit nonsense on the head, but it should only happen when voters are in possesion of the facts.

I keep saying I’ll keep off the Brexit threads, but I do peep sometimes.

We are as bad as each other maddy.

I tell myself frequently that it really isn't worth the effort (or abuse) as our words change nothing.

What will be, will be, but if Remainer MPs tie us to the EU indefinitely, as they seem to be doing, then the public deserve a general election to get rid of them.

Is that the plan do you think, to delay, time and time again and resist an election, so people get so fed up they leave them to their Remainer totalitarian skulduggery?

Scrap Article 50 and have a second, properly structured referendum. If the vote is still Leave, form a cross-party committee of MPs and other stakeholders to start again.

Bravo Day6.

Does the government provide body bags? I thought it was the undertaker who provided the body bag!

I keep saying I’ll keep off the Brexit threads, but I do peep sometimes. I think I wish I hadn’t at this thread, it’s unbelievably nasty. Deny leave voters medicines! What kind of warped mind comes up with a proposal like that. It sounds like the most extreme type of dictatorship imaginable, you’ll only get the medicine if you agree with and support me! Unbelievable!

No, we don’t need even another few days, do we?
There have been three years and it still isn’t done, nor is it right.
We now have the even more ludicrous situation of not having a deal that MPs will vote for, and of not having a no-deal to fall back on either.Limbo......indefinitely.

It’s amazing isn’t it, that what jura2 wrote about denying medical treatment to Leavers,( and endorsed more or less just now by Alexa as well) and even Anja thinks that nobody should ‘pitch in’ to say how abhorrent it is, probably think of their comments as liberal, when in fact they are anything but!
Unbelievable.

our parliament wil look for a LONG delay from Brussels but still not enough time to change the appalling WA, which Parliament has already rejected three times.

One would conclude we want a DIFFERENT WA, which the EU is not prepared to discuss, even though Remain MPs think differently.

We cannot and should not accept May's deal with the EU. It does not benefit us. It keeps us in EU handcuffs. We might as well scrap Brexit now, (which is what Remainer MPs want).

Look at this bit, from the article in the OP.

Our poor fishermen and the fishing industry must be aware of this section of the WA, one would hope. I'd be very surprised if anyone involved in the UK fishing industry voted Remain.

Article 130 of the Withdrawal Agreement discusses specific arrangements relating to fishing opportunities

It contains four paragraphs which require the reader to cross reference to articles 43(3) TEU and point (b) of Article 129(2)

I won’t go into all the details, but suffice it to say that these few paragraphs give the EU everything it requires – in other words, access to our waters under the same terms as when we were a member state

The WA is not acceptable, we cannot get another one, so we either cave in or go for No Deal. Every MP knows this, so why is Parliament keeping us hanging on, and having us fork out billions of tax payers money at the same time?

Remain MPs and those who stall are betraying the UK.

We don't need any more time to say NO to this, do we?

I think I shall take my leave of the political threads

I have been saying this for a while GrannyGravy.

I get the feeling some Remain posters, full of hatred, would happily evict us Leavers.

Yes Day 6 some very nasty Remainers on GN at the moment full of hate and vitriol.

Day6, I think some of those who voted remain have sunk to an all time low.

Should leave voters be tattooed so all can show their contempt?

I think I shall take my leave of the political threads.

Chill, Anja! Rumour has it that the government has made contingency plans and ordered extra body bags. I hope to goodness that is one rumour which isn't true.

In practice there are a lot of stupid, misinformed, or otherwise intransigent people..

Alexa's view of Leavers.

Nice.

And really, she concludes, we OUGHT to suffer, but being better than that, she'll allow people who voted differently from her medical treatment if we need it.

You are too kind.

Wow, Alexa you just created a two-tier system of humans there, one more worthy than the other. The hatred runs deep, doesn't it?

Some would certainly be the first to squeal were they to suffer the consequences of their own actions.

Jura wrote:

"Perhaps we should have a register, so that the ones who voted Leave and would still want to do so, even though they now know the consequences- will be the ones to go without the drugs and treatments if and when they require them."

I agree on the principle. In practice there are a lot of stupid, misinformed, or otherwise intransigent people who we cannot as a matter or conscience allow to suffer for their folly .

Certainly an unpleasant suggestion I agree, but then everybody pitches in and .....??

A truly nasty comment from jura2 it just beggars belief.

This is really the worst of GN.

I agree ?

Lemongrove
Yes, it is a relief. I really found it quite distressing that people can think so.

Joelsnan it seems ( fortunately) that nobody else is coming forward to endorse jura2 and her outrageous views.
That’s a relief!