Will the web being woven, hold?

Have you ever seen anyone who admires themselves more!!?

I think this is very true

Robert Peston
However eloquent
@Jacob_Rees_Mogg
may be, I am not sure he has caught the mood of the House with his attack on Tory rebels as flouting parliamentary convention and the constitution. He is stiffening the resolve of the rebels: "JRM is utterly winding up the house. His arrogance..
is staggering" says one.
@BorisJohnson
may end up losing by a bigger margin than he initially thought

Cheers lemon

I have to say WWM2 that I do like the title of this thread.
Rather literary.

Mogg is so much up himself it’s a wonder we can hear him talk.

What an utter twit he is.

Some folk have been brainwashed for many years and it is very difficult to get them to wake up and see that, but Led by Donkeys are doing a great job.

Oh dear

I see the donkeys ( asses!) as the rebel MPs.

Some who voted leave appear to have very short memories.

Led by Donkeys are doing a great job reminding them.

Voters were told in the leaflets.that we would not be leaving without a deal...

hold on a minute .we don't need another referendum.had the vote for the EU gone the other way .would us leavers get a 2nd vote .no we wouldn't .we never asked for a deal with the EU to leave the EU. what a mess this government is...bunch of over paid clowns/!!!

Anyone else feeling a bit sick at the realisation that the future of our wonderful country depends on what happens over the next few days?

And we are off

UK House of Commons
@HouseofCommons
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An application for an #emergencydebate on the European Union (Withdrawal) has been submitted. The Speaker will consider it later today. If successful, the debate takes precedence over today's scheduled business under Standing Order 24.
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmagenda/OP190903so24.pdf

Corbyn and Long Bailey were saying bring on an election just Yesterday ?

Comment on Tory strategy - the government that is, not the other Tory party.

David Allen Green

So Boris Johnson may have become Prime Minister but at the cost of:

- never having a parliamentary majority
- never being able to call a general election
- watching impotently as EU membership is extended again and again

If so, it would be such a beautiful, poetic outcome

And had he not made the "genius" blunder of prorogation he may have got No Deal through

But that, at a stroke, energised and unified opposition

Well done, Dominic Cummings

This is not a u turn !!!???

More comment on Labour strategy

Jon Worth

Labour's line - we will give Johnson his General Election if No Deal is taken off the table - is precisely the right one.

That is not a U-Turn. That is putting in place a safety mechanism as Johnson betrayed trust having done the prorogation.
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Jonathan Lis
Exactly this. Labour can very easily say ‘we won’t hand the reins to Boris Johnson - we need to stop no-deal’. It’ll show integrity. It also forces Johnson either to follow parliament’s extension orders or resign as PM. Labour would be mad to hand over control and do his bidding.

That was always a possibility....it doesn’t need Norman Smith to have come up with that before you thought of it surely?
It places Labour in the position of back tracking on their assertion of ‘yes! Bring it on’ about a GE even though Corbyn and R Long-Bailey were saying that yesterday.
They would be fools to agree to an election ( and they wouldn't win it anyway) but there are still all sorts of things that could happen.

Another commentator. Oh I do hope they are right.

norman smith
@BBC
Seems to me the Boris Johnson strategy cd be about to blow up in his face if MPs back No deal legislation AND block early general election.

A few gaps beginning to appear in the web?

@IanDunt
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Feels almost like the walls are closing in on Johnson & Cummings. Tory rebels mostly holding firm. Labour doesn't seem to be taking the election bait. Near-constant leaks revealing the absence of a negotiation and disaster of no-deal

Could all easily go tits up by the end of the day, but I'm starting it fairly chipper.

F.

I was pleased to read on line that Philip Hammond's constituency resisted the campaign to deselect him. I'm deeply uneasy about the suggestion that MP's who don't toe the party line can have the whip removed and be told they can't stand for the party they've represented for years. If that became the norm, we'd lose some good independent minded Conservative Labour, Liberal etc MP's.
It's looking as though a mid October election is possible. Surely that has to delay Brexit and that once again we have an election dominated by that.

It would seem that many MPs may well not vote for a General Election to be called even if the motion for Parliament to take control of the order paper is passed today.

Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the opposition has to state he would welcome such an election, but many individual MPs are wishing to see much clearer Brexit options on the table, and then an election to be held without a very close Brexit leave deadline hanging over such a vote.

Therefore I feel that should a motion to call a General Election be placed before the House of Commons this week, many MPs will treat that as a free vote and poll against that motion.

The above, should the motion for an election be rejected, would very much "put the ball back in Johnson's court." In that, he would either have to bow to the House of Commons demand to ask the EU for an extension to October 31st and also take no-deal off the table or resign.

Interesting and dangerous times indeed.

Durham lass, are you then, Ug?

Johnson needs 433 MPs to vote for a GE.

It's all very

I'm really pleased that Philip Hammond has been reselected by his local association after Arron Banks' campaign had tried to deselect him. Of course, it now means that he has a really big decision to make, because he'll lose the Conservative whip if he votes for the rebels' bill. Mind you, he's rich enough not to need his MP's salary and I don't think he'll have much difficulty finding a new job.