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Will the web being woven, hold?

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Sept-19 08:18:05

Cummings game plan seems to be on course.

The tiny majority will be rendered a minority at a stroke by Cummings threat to take the whip away from any Tory rebels.

Johnson has then scapegoats to blame for his failure to deliver a brexit deal, and an excuse to go for a GE.

Labour will then fall in with the game plan by holding a VONC and a GE looks a distinct possibility sometime in Oct.
Johnson will fight it as the people v the elite who failed to deliver the democratic vote. (Bannon writ large)

The U.K. will then crash out on Nov 1st. No attempt is being made by Cummings to get a deal and in any case his contact finishes on Oct 31st.

Drum1234 Sun 08-Sept-19 20:32:39

Totally agree jura, that is a despicable comment from EnglishRose.

jura2 Sun 08-Sept-19 20:27:45

EnglishRose - I am speechless- how can anyone wish this on the country, our children and grandchildren? Did you live through the war?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 20:26:40

I think that what is becoming clear, that Cummings has decided that the one nation, moderate Tories are not welcome, and the Tory party is in effect becoming the Brexit party. I wonder if 5he moderates will be able to form their own party as I would imagine that there would be enough money following them. Business does not like extremes.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 20:22:59

It is rumoured that Cummings has overruled Johnson twice this week. He is clearly running the show.

Labaik Sun 08-Sept-19 20:16:56

I don't think you've responded to my reply about 'the bus' have you? I'd like to know what you think about it...

EnglishRose Sun 08-Sept-19 18:34:26

WW2...I'm not afraid. Bring it on!

Iam64 Sun 08-Sept-19 08:29:36

Will Boris Johnson resign as PM but remain Conservative leader? Is that even possible? Would the commons then name an older states person, respected by all sides as temporary PM over a government of national unity.
Who knows.
One thing that would help imo, is for Dominic Cummings to be banished. There are so many comments from unnamed sources about him pulling the strings, often advising the PM to do things even he doesn't want to do. If that's the case, not very strong leadership is it.
The lates polls put the Conservatives 10 points ahead of Labour though.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 08:10:30

Some information on proposed legislation to stop no deal.

pbs.twimg.com/media/ED7HARlW4AAVpy7?format=jpg&name=medium

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 08:04:35

Attempts to break the web

Jo Maugham QC
@JolyonMaugham
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It is not my expectation that Parliament will remain suspended for the rest of September and the first half of October. It may well be unsuspended on Wednesday. But if it does, MPs must use the time to draft a further Bill which can be introduced when Parliament re-sits.
If Parliament is serious about stopping No Deal, it must address the scenario where the EU refuses an extension. Legislation to address it might comprise an automatic revocation - there being no other alternative - unless a motion to 'No Deal' passed both Houses of Parliament.
The Rebel Alliance doesn't need a Prime Minister. If there is legislation which commands a majority in the House of Commons they can force it through anyway. It's time for them to turn their attention to that.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 07:50:37

Another web

Arron Banks

You are soaring in the polls dopey. +13% and Brexit party strong. I have a feeling @Nigel_Farage could be strolling through the front door of number 10, in the next few weeks

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 07:25:49

#JacobReesMogg “huge personal windfall” after #Brexit
His Dublin based Somerset Capital has taken a massive 'short position' on the pound hitting rock bottom following the planned #NoDealBrexit

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 07:09:56

Be afraid, be very afraid

Told that Dominic Cummings told a meeting on Friday that the people who are cross about his tactics “will melt” when they learn of what he has planned in coming weeks.

We’re in the foothills of the chaos.

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 21:59:58

My son had hoped to do an Erasmus exchange but has been told by his uni that new applications aren't being accepted.

M0nica Sat 07-Sept-19 21:52:25

growstuff. Once we leave the EU we will no longer be able to draw on funds for research limited to EU members only. Other funds allow one or two non-EU participants, but we will be in competition with other countries from all over the world to be such a participant.

We will also be excluded from EU-wide collaborative bodies, who meet and discuss research agendas and programmes in other EU countries. DS is on a number of those.

On Erasmus, I admit things are not as clear, but are not hopeful www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47293927

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 21:45:03

Labour/LibDem/SNP/Plaid have more seats than Conservative/DUP. That's not including the Independents (mainly Conservative rebels) and Independent Group for Change.

Labour is effectively in the most powerful position. If the party supports no No Deal, it will win and Johnson is paralysed.

Johnson needs to do something illegal or find a way to force an election. I'm not sure what happens if he resigns - whether a GE is triggered or whether the Queen has to ask Corbyn to form a government.

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 21:32:10

Yes, she is. 346 majority with Labour second and nobody else anywhere near.

Iam64 Sat 07-Sept-19 21:29:50

Yes she has a tiny majority. Nicky Morgan next ?

Labaik Sat 07-Sept-19 21:28:21

Blimey; talk about 'a week is a long time in politics ' but it's now .blink and you'll miss it'. Isn't she in a marginal seat as well?

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 21:16:41

Amber Rudd has resigned the Conservative whip and will be voting as an independent on Monday.

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 20:50:04

I'm surprised Johnson hasn't edited it with a Sharpie pen, like Trump was alleged to have done with a weather map.

Labaik Sat 07-Sept-19 20:46:11

They certainly think that we don't have memories, that's for sure...

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 20:42:48

I honestly think some Leavers think all Remainers are stupid. wink

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 20:41:17

And that looks awfully like Johnson in front of the bus, so presumably he endorsed the message.

I must have missed the disclaimer in the national press, in which Cummings and Johnson apologised for inadvertently misleading the public.

Labaik Sat 07-Sept-19 20:24:12

Let's..not 'could'...

growstuff Sat 07-Sept-19 20:22:38

MOnica According to one poster, science and Erasmus won't be affected by Brexit. angry I was called a liar for suggesting that they would be.