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Will the web being woven, hold?

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Sept-19 08:18:05

Cummings game plan seems to be on course.

The tiny majority will be rendered a minority at a stroke by Cummings threat to take the whip away from any Tory rebels.

Johnson has then scapegoats to blame for his failure to deliver a brexit deal, and an excuse to go for a GE.

Labour will then fall in with the game plan by holding a VONC and a GE looks a distinct possibility sometime in Oct.
Johnson will fight it as the people v the elite who failed to deliver the democratic vote. (Bannon writ large)

The U.K. will then crash out on Nov 1st. No attempt is being made by Cummings to get a deal and in any case his contact finishes on Oct 31st.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 21:16:18

lemon ?time to stop digging or else you will disappear entirely

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 21:15:30

Nobody actually has to say the words ‘sweetness and light’.hmm

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 21:14:38

It was inherent in the posts.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 21:13:28

'The point is, posters appear to think that until the advent of Dominic Cummings, all advisors were sweetness and light'. When did people say that?

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 21:13:20

Iam64 I believe that they are all as bad as each other ( advisors) and have come to the conclusion that many MP’s are the same.
There is a case that they need to be to survive in Westminster.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 21:11:24

Sounds as though people like Amber Rudd and Nicky Morgan are getting a bit jittery...

So they should be in my opinion.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 21:08:48

Lemon grove, your post of 19:37 seems to be another one determined to get others to say that Dominic Cummings is one of the good guys or at least he is no worse than others. I think you are wrong. Others think you are wrong. That doesn't mean you can't stick to your point of view but I do think you are fighting a losing battle with most people.

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 21:07:05

The point is, posters appear to think that until the advent of Dominic Cummings, all advisors were sweetness and light.

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 21:05:26

I don’t think that political advisors have to be members of a political party Iam64.
Campbell may or may not have enjoyed a few drinks ( like
Cummings) .... I have no idea if he is staggering around drunkenly mind you.They are all bullies though.
Malcolm in The Thick Of It was modelled on Campbell.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 20:13:12

Sounds as though people like Amber Rudd and Nicky Morgan are getting a bit jittery...

Iam64 Thu 05-Sept-19 20:02:35

I was shocked to see Johnson continue to talk, after he'd been made aware the young cadet was ill. She then collapsed and he saw this, turned to look, turned back and carried on talking. Just awful behaviour, by any standard.

lemongrove , of course we all remember Alistair Campbell. He was at least a member and supporter of the LP. This dreadful drunken bully appointed by Boris Johnson isn't even a Conservative.

The news of Joe Johnson's resignation and departure from Politics adds to the shocking news this week. The Conservatives are losing some of their best MP's. I wonder what it will take for the remaining Conservative Remain / avoid a hard Brexit, supporting MP's to be honest?

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 19:37:47

Anyone remember Alistair Campbell, Blair’s advisor?Or the two special advisors to T May that wrecked her GE majority?
These people do not get to where they are by being all round good eggs.
They are ambitious and ruthless with tunnel vision.
Actually like many politicians.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 19:17:23

Johnson has a very poor reputation about laziness and ever preparing. That speech made the truth is that crystal clear.

It was the worst speech I have ever heard

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 19:15:52

Don’t forget Johnson was an hour late making the policewomen wait in the sun and then even though she had collapsed he continued to talk.

Unbelievable

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 18:47:13

Larry belongs to No 10, not the PM, surely?

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 18:45:23

Does anyone seriously think that any political advisors are ‘nice’? (Thu 05-Sep-19 18:28:04)

Yes, without a doubt. They just don't get splashed all over the papers. Most of them are not even heard about until they stop being advisors.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 18:37:50

I don't recall a previous PM having a cute little dog. I thought Larry was there to keep the mice at bay...

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 18:33:29

Oh, isn’t he terrible !! ??

All PMs have pets in the household,( they may or may not like them) there will be plenty of people to feed walk and pat it, including Johnson’s girlfriend.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 18:33:08

'Does anyone seriously think that any political advisors are ‘nice’ ?'...I don't expect them to be nice, but would prefer them to give advice that doesn't harm the country socially and economically.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 18:29:13

...' or whether he likes pets or not'. lemon; it matters because it proves he is just using that poor little dog as a pawn in his own personal game of thrones, that's why.

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 18:28:04

Does anyone seriously think that any political advisors are ‘nice’ ?

Fennel Thu 05-Sept-19 18:25:11

A surprising comment from La Depeche, a local french newspaper. :
"Le titre est légèrement racoleur, mais l'article narre un Parlement vivant, à l'instar du notre lors des questions diverses.
S'y rajoutent le flegme et l'humour british, les amateurs de Monty Python apprécieront ...
.'Racoleur' promotional.
narre - relates
L'instar - like others.
Sounds like they've lost interest. I don't blame them.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 18:14:54

Labaik, I heard the interview and it was as you described.

I have just been listening to two journalists talking about Dominic Cummings. I'm stuck for words really. What a thoroughly nasty example of humanity - and they were trying really hard to put a balanced picture of the man.

MaizieD Thu 05-Sept-19 18:11:53

A Scottish judge has ruled that Boris Johnson’s planned shutdown of Parliament next week is a matter for politicians, not the courts, and is lawful.

It's going to Appeal, Ug where it is possible that the judge's decision may be overruled.

The same judge ruled that A50 couldn't be unilaterally revoked but the ruling was overturned on Appeal.

So let's not anyone get too excited yet...

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 18:11:12

A Scottish judge has ruled that Boris Johnson’s planned shutdown of Parliament next week is a matter for politicians, not the courts, and is lawful. (Thu 05-Sep-19 18:03:51)

An appeal against the ruling is expected, and similar cases are to be heard in Northern Ireland and England.