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Will the web being woven, hold?

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Sept-19 08:18:05

Cummings game plan seems to be on course.

The tiny majority will be rendered a minority at a stroke by Cummings threat to take the whip away from any Tory rebels.

Johnson has then scapegoats to blame for his failure to deliver a brexit deal, and an excuse to go for a GE.

Labour will then fall in with the game plan by holding a VONC and a GE looks a distinct possibility sometime in Oct.
Johnson will fight it as the people v the elite who failed to deliver the democratic vote. (Bannon writ large)

The U.K. will then crash out on Nov 1st. No attempt is being made by Cummings to get a deal and in any case his contact finishes on Oct 31st.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 14:36:58

It was suggested somewhere [need to check the details] that Gove is still plotting against Johnson....and that he was the one that put forward Cummings as Johnson's advisor. Although I would assume that Cummings and Johnson were already in league with each other. We live in strange [political] times. More like the Wars of the Roses.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 14:26:05

Almost certain that Johnson will continue with the narrative of war in his speech to the voter today.

Surrender will be used a lot.

Never fear Johnson, there will be an election, of course there will be.

Just not at your direction. You have lost all power due to your abysmal strategy. I should boot out Cummings if I were you.

mcem Thu 05-Sept-19 12:30:32

Latest news seems to be that they are reconsidering rushing in.
A few weeks will make little difference to their solid lead in Scotland .
I have urged Chris Law to stick with the cross party co-operation and bide their time.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 12:26:21

mcem I think that the SNP will hold solidly with the opposition, but in any case even if they didn’t Johnson still wouldn’t have the numbers.

mcem Thu 05-Sept-19 12:24:05

Ww2 I'd emailed my own mp just before that interview. I questioned the SNP stand on the timing of a GE. Maybe I should contact him again and ask him to have a chat with your man!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 12:04:59

Time for the next Tory PM??????

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 12:03:52

Time for Johnson to throw in the towel

Fennel Thu 05-Sept-19 12:01:43

His sister, Rache', also disagrees with him.
I think she joined the LibDems not long ago.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 11:48:06

mcem he’s my mp and brilliant. I always help in his campaigning. If I mail him he answers immediately. He is approachable and articulate.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 11:46:18

God knows!

mcem Thu 05-Sept-19 11:45:56

I too was wondering why we'd seen so little of Jo.
First Ruth D says she can't bear work with him and now his brother!
So why should we put up with him?

Peter Kyle MP has just been interviewed. I had never heard of him but he said exactly what I want to hear.
Will follow him with interest!

Nandalot Thu 05-Sept-19 11:44:07

If he resigns as an MP does that mean a by election? Sorry for the dumb question.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 11:40:47

Yes labaik now concentrate on The ERG.

MaizieD Thu 05-Sept-19 11:37:29

Strangely enough I was only thinking about it earlier today.

Ooooh! Think about some more of them would you please, Labaik if that's the effect your thoughts have grin

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 11:37:22

Jo Johnson has accused his brother of not acting in the national interest.

Labaik Thu 05-Sept-19 11:30:49

I'm so relieved to hear that. I had so much respect for Jo last year and felt totally let down by him when he became a member of Johnsons cabinet. Strangely enough I was only thinking about it earlier today.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-19 11:26:42

Major holes in the web now.

Johnson’s brother has just resigned

notentirelyallhere Thu 05-Sept-19 08:21:40

I'd recommend a visit to Mumsnet where I just went for a peek to see what those who will have to live in a post Brexit Britain are thinking.

A lot of cogent analysis with less harking back to the past and less rhetoric. There are some excellent posters on here but I suddenly feel buoyed up with the thought that those younger than most of us have their finger on the pulse. Refreshing thought.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Sept-19 08:18:00

I have never treated Corbyn with the all out hatred some seem to but rather watched his politics with both interest and caution. Perhaps this is because I have never expected politicians to be good at everything or all things to everyone.

I have never seen a politician who treated parliament as his own fiefdom as Johnson does though and comparison between the two seems odious to me. Johnson seems to think himself something he isn't whereas I have the feeling Corbyn is pretty much aware of his faults and prepared to live with the consequences of bearing them for the sake of his politics.

In the end I am personally not overly attracted by personality but rather to policy and overall political stance. Currently, no parties politics seems wholly attractive but the Conservatives are wholly unattractive to me, especially now they seem to be deliberately shedding the One Nation Tories.

But that's just me. Everyone has to reach their own conclusions.

lemongrove Thu 05-Sept-19 07:52:22

I think there are very few who fit the term statesmanlike actually.
Certainly neither Corbyn or Johnson.
The whole Parliament is now dysfunctional and hopeless.
The UK is mired down in endless prospects of more ‘kick the can into the long grass’ with regards a leaving date.
The HOC resembles the ape enclosure at London Zoo.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 05-Sept-19 07:26:06

What a battle, but so interesting to watch it all on TV. I was glued to it last night so much that I for once couldn't sleep and today I am up early as we are leaving for the Netherlands for week.

crystaltipps Wed 04-Sept-19 21:45:20

Jess Phillips for PM. Gets my vote.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Sept-19 21:38:51

And me labaik

Labaik Wed 04-Sept-19 21:33:54

Iam; have been glued to the parliament channel for 2 days/nights now! Jess had me in tears. But [I've asked this on another thread] did someone shout out 'sit down darling' when Jo Swinson was speaking? I didn't hear it myself but my partner did and he was disgusted...Ian Blackford is also amazing; as was that Labour MP, Thelma something or other who just spoke. I must find out who she is. And shall write to Jess...

GracesGranMK3 Wed 04-Sept-19 21:10:03

Agree Iam you could not fail to be moved by Jess Phillips.