Will the Tory party survive this crises?

www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/09/government-bluffing-or-mad

Both - they are deluded enough to think posing to the EU will make them change their minds. Meanwhile, EU leaders have pulled up their chairs, broken open the popcorn and are enjoying BJ, PM Cummings et al make themselves look ridiculous

Keep on believing that SirC and Varian....the EU will be very worried indeed.
So will the rebel MPs.

You seem to forget that if we leave without a deal, it isn’t just the UK paying extra tariffs.
Never mind the eye wateringly huge sum the EU are hoping to get from us.

And you seem to forget that a no deal is the worst possible option

Which is exactly why Johnson is right to be doing what he’s doing!
Concentrating the minds of the EU negotiators.
But if we leave without a deal because they won’t give an inch, then so be it.

oh bless you lemon

‘So be it’ isn’t going to be very good for the country now, is it. Probably better to think about doing something a bit more productive.

And talking of doing something more productive, I’m off to the gym

I seem to remember you blessed posters a lot in your previous GN incarnation.?Are you a Catholic perhaps?

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Nonnie They disappear because they're paid Tweeters, who have a script, but haven't a clue how to respond. Momentum has them too.

Why should the EU be the one to “give an inch” when we aren’t? (And we are the ones to cause all the kerfuffle).
What’s the betting the dog will eat Johnson’s alternatives for the backstop?

For those politicals amongst us, today doesn’t get much better!

It is looking set to be a day if high drama, with the people’s representatives trying to prevent an unelected prime minister (who has already used the Queens prerogative to close the House during the most important period in our peacetime history) from inflicting economic catastrophe on the U.K.

Notably those most likely to lose from this vote are those Tories who are being threatened with withdrawal of the whip. Many are as a result considering leaving politics and others will stay to fight. The Tory party is in a fight for its existence and a once great party is being torn to shreds.

Cummings who affectively is running the Tory party, is not a Tory party member which shows to many alarmed at the unfolding events, that no care for the Tory party is being shown, but in fact entryism and the suggestion that the Brexit Party will join forces with the Tory party makes clear that it is likely to become the most right wing government that the. U.K. has ever had to suffer.

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It would seem that many MPs may well not vote for a General Election to be called even if the motion for Parliament to take control of the order paper is passed today.

Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the opposition has to state he would welcome such an election, but many individual MPs are wishing to see much clearer Brexit options on the table, and then an election to be held without a very close Brexit leave deadline hanging over such a vote.

Therefore I feel that should a motion to call a General Election be placed before the House of Commons this week, many MPs will treat that as a free vote and poll against that motion.

The above, should the motion for an election be rejected, would very much "put the ball back in Johnson's court." In that, he would either have to bow to the House of Commons demand to ask the EU for an extension to October 31st and also take no-deal off the table or resign.

Interesting and dangerous times indeed.

Anji your contempt and ridicule of those who think differently says so much about you . Who do you think you are ?

Who is Anji?
And did you WW Mark2 actually mean this crisis or (possibly more accurately) these crises as we seem to lurch from one to another - a Freudian slip?

Will you vote for a new type of hard right Tory party - er - no. I won't be voting for any type of Tory party.

Farage is biding his time and waiting in the wings for no deal.

He will then join forces with the new shiny far right Tories to win the election, and steer the U.K. into territory never before seen in the U.K. or indeed Europe since WW11.

Crystal ball time again?
Nothing is certain at the moment the way that MPs are behaving.
In fact you could say with certainty that uncertainty is the only show in town!
If Labour MPs agree to a GE at all it will be amazing, in spite of the fact that even up to yesterday they were saying ‘bring it on’. They will probably backtrack on that today.
Nobody at all either in Parliament or outside it, knows what will happen, but at least team Johnson will have played every card they have to achieve leaving the EU in accordance with the referendum, what MPs voted for afterwards, and what both main parties ‘stood on’ in the last GE, and for that I applaud them.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

I see Justine Greening has been bullied out of the Tory party.

It’s all a game to some isn’t it? Particularly Johnson and his puppet master.

crystal

Cummings sees it as exactly that. He is totally a-moral and cares nothing for either the Tory party and especially for our country.

The end game is all he cares about. I suspect he is on the spectrum.