If there is an election.....

Lyndiloo.... I recently put loads of links re: an EU army on here ....it's well researched and proves it to be true. Merkle herself has been pleading for one for years. It is almost complete now. If we do not leave the EU this October, or before 2020 our Armed Forces will be subject to EU laws. If they wish to go to war, we have to follow. Ditto the Euro, the failing, pathetic currency which has caused endless problems in Greece, Italy and other countries. By 2022 the UK must join the Euro.

That's on another link about the Lisbon Treaty I put here.

Dominic Cummings on why Leave won the referendum:
twitter.com/i/status/1170257850528075778

My mistake:
France is trialling on a limited basis a scheme for young people to do compulsory military community service.

Just because you see something on the Internet doesn't make it true.

What kind of European army do you think is envisaged?

We are more likely to see young people involved in warfare if we continue squabbling and distrusting our neighbours. It makes sense to share expensive weapons and to work in a co-ordinated way.

Germany has debated bringing back conscription (but not necessarily in the forces), but it is unlikely to happen. www.dw.com/en/germans-debate-return-of-military-conscription-and-service-for-men-and-women/a-44962067

France is trialling on a limited basis a scheme for young people to do compulsory military service. www.thelocal.fr/20190617/is-france-really-bringing-back-national-service-for-teenagers

Incidentally, Farage has talked about compulsory military service in the past - mind you, he talks a load of BS, so it probably wasn't true.

No, I don't think we should "just get out", especially when people believe the kind of myths you obviously do. I am more determined than ever that this kind of scare-mongering should be stamped on its the head and the truth is told.

Following Merkel's announcement, a few months ago, that there would eventually be a European Army (which I actually saw on the Internet, so know that this is true) I read that France was bringing back conscription (into their armed forces). Yesterday, on BBC Radio's 'Any Answers', a caller said that Germany is also bringing back conscription.

Now, I have no idea if the last two bits of information are true or not, as there is so much misinformation around now, that I've got so that I don't believe anything!

But all this talk of a 'European Army' sends shivers up my spine. Yet there is little real news of it. And I do wonder if all the young people (who supposedly would vote 'Remain' if there were to be another referendum, are aware of it).

It does look like there will be General Election now. I'm voting for the Brexit Party. The EU seems to be getting above itself in a very worrying way. Let's just get out!

America was oppressed by the UK in a way the EU has never oppressed the UK.

It sickens me that, at a time when this country is in absolute chaos you seem to find it all amusing.....

Oh god .. remind me never to post a joke again on GN!

(Wears hair shirt).

I don’t think it as about US (in the U.K.)
It was about the USA feeling oppressed and wanting out from the colonial U.K.?

Anyway.
It made me laugh.
Remember that Remainers??

Marching, polls, demonstrations.......all irrelevant....the only thing that had any relevance is the ballot box!!

Happy Anniversary Urmstongran ???

There were between one and two million marching in London, even now aknowledged by the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.

A pathetic few turned out for Farage's march.

The idea of the Brexit Party "sweeping the country" is laughable. Does anybody remember that march with a hundred or so stalwarts while there were hundreds of thousands protesting against Brexit in London?

It also depends on where those votes are situated if they are mostly in already dyed in the wool Conservative constituencies, that will not help. Nor will it help in Remainer Conservative constituencies where the swing to the LibDems is particularly strong.

Remember, we are like the Americans, getting a majority of the vote does not mean winning the election.

Urmstongran Quote [ Tories extend lead over Labour to 10% despite chaotic week
More than half of all leave voters are now planning to vote for Boris Johnson” ] End Quote.

Urmstongran, in regard to your above, the Tories began the 2017 General Election campaign with a 20% Lead over the Labour Party and we all know how that finished up. The Tories lost their overall majority in the House of Commons.

So, I believe that Labour activists will be saying "bring it on" as soon as Boris Johnson implements the legislation that our democratically elected MPs placed upon him.

Of Course, should he choose not to carry out the above he could finish up in prison. However, it would seem that many of his fellow Tory MPs (or former Tory MPs) would be happy to see him go there and remain there. ?

and the bodies and lives of the native Americans before that

I am not sure that the situation in the USA was all mother love and apple pie as soon as they left the British Empire. I would say it was at least half a century of struggle and privation before it began to recover and then that recovery was built on the bodies and lives of African slaves.

Is that really what you want for Britian Urmston?

Urm My understanding of American history is a little different. (This is an extremely shortened version) In the 1750s the French attacked some of the English colonies and in 1756 the British suffered a series of defeats by the French and their native American allies.

This conflict merged into the Seven Years War which was France, Austria and Russia against Prussia and England. It was much more serious than the events in America.

At different times the French and the Spanish allied with the settlers and Britain suffered several defeats. But our main enemy was France and war, sometimes military and sometimes a cold war continued until we defeated Napoleon.

In 1780 the Kingdom of Mysore attacked the British in India which was far more important to us than the American colonies. In 1781 a combined American and French army besieged Cornwallis' army and he surrendered in October of that year. The surrender gave the Whigs the upper hand and in 1782 Parliament voted to end all offensive operations in America.

We were also under attack from the French in Gibralter so not much time to deal with the American colonies.

you, genius,why are you not making political comedy? Instead of the rubbish the BBC churns out.

twitter.com/BeatsSurrender/status/1170297288574611457?s=20

We are not and never have been a colony of the EU.

The EU is not a colonial power it is a Union of 27 European nations who act together for the common good.

We have the good fortune to have the very best deal of any EU member country - not in the Euro nor in Schengen, and benfiting from a rebate.

We are also one of the most powerful and influential member countries of the EU, able to influence that way it develops in the future and our standing in the world has been immensely enhanced because of our EU memberhip.

Why on earth could anyone ever think we could get a better deal by giving up all thes advantages?e

Who invaded and pillaged the USA?!! People emigrated on the Mayflower etc to escape religious persecution, but hardly an invasion, still less a pillage!!! They eventually became the first European Americans, up till then there were Native first Americans, no Europeans. Poor things, by all accounts had a very tough time of it from the incumbent population!! Emigration from Ireland and Europe was long after the war of independence! Serious persecution of the first Americans, was again, long after the war. The now Americans certainly wanted to be rid of being run from London, just as we want to be rid of being run by Europe!

Why can't Lessimore be serious Urmstongran? The way the UK treated America just cannot be compared to the UK's current role in the EU. Maybe you'd like to explain your reasoning.

Your comment does appear to be unnecessary and nasty.

Who are the other half going to vote for?

Past caring.

Hey - just now in the Graun on line (bet their editorial team were antsy about having to post ‘this’ headline’. -

“Tories extend lead over Labour to 10% despite chaotic week
More than half of all leave voters are now planning to vote for Boris Johnson”

Oh Lessismore!! You cannot be serious!
(Said in my best John McEnroe imitation!)
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