Well that’s it. We’re not leaving the EU. The people in charge won’t allow it.

I agree Whitewave, the ERG, the no deal hardliners have fought tooth and nail to avoid a deal.

crystal I think you are right. What has prevented us from leaving are about 40 extreme hard right politicians. Without their ultra- hard right stance I have no doubt that the U.K. would now be out on a moderate agreement.

If only people were taught more thoroughly about the English Civil War in the 17th century when Parliament fought for the people against the likes of Rees Mogg and his ilk. The latter want a no deal to boost their private income and investments.

Elected MPs are how democracy is organised in this country. How many times does it take for some to hear that referendums are ADVISORY. It's like imagining that instead of a local council we could organise bin day by a everyone having their say in a single vote! Thank god for Parliament and the ancient institutions of this country.

I think most people would have gone with a Norway style deal as we were promised by the leave campaign as it is a compromise, but no it wasn’t Brexitty enough so the extremists rejected it. Don’t blame the remainers for all this mess.

Arrogant Parliament? That would be funny if it wasn’t so far from the truth lemongrove. This recent chaos is due to Boris’s government trying to strip parliament of its powers. In any third work country that would be the way a dictator operates.

Well done those Tory rebels who sacrificed their political careers and livelihoods to stand up for democratic principles

It’s the extreme brexiteers who rejected the WA not the remainers btw.

The country didn’t vote to leave with no deal. It’s arguable what is meant by “the country” or the sacred 17.4 m, what about the 55m of the population who didn’t vote for it? If it had been 75% population you might have a chance of persuading people it’s a good idea. As it is it’s a vocal minority of loud mouths with a hate message and war like rhetoric who are stirring people up and causing division.

I’m not sure Anja that the whole point behind all of this is to postpone, put off and not leave at all . If we can’t reach a perfect deal then we will not leave . Why don’t they just come out and say it ? “We want to remain so we will do everything in our powers to avoid leaving” There I said it for them . It really was quite easy.

Must dash now, the loos of industry won’t get cleaned while I play on Gransnet.

Boris Johnson

As mayor of London, Boris told voters on 6 March 2016 ahead of the referendum:

Everybody is suddenly wrangling about the terrors of the world outside... Actually, there are plenty of people who now think the cost of getting out would be virtually nil and the cost of staying in would be very high.

Handing ex-chancellor George Osborne The Spectator's Parliamentarian of the Year award on 3 November 2016, a few months after the result, he sloganeered:

Brexit means Brexit and we’re going to make a titanic success of it.

Boris doubled-down on his optimism when he told the Commons on 11 July 2017:

There is no plan for no deal, because we’re going to get a great deal.

Thank goodness no one took him seriously.

kandinsky I prefer to try to save our country from chaos and division.

I prefer to STOP NO DEAL.

It's the day democracy died here.
My grandfather and his brother gave their lives in the First World War for this country,my father was in the air firce through the second, he came back, his friends, a lot of them didn't. They fought for this country, to be free, for democracy, these people who opposed the referendum, stuck two fingers up at that, they have ridiculed our democratic rights because they didn't like to outcome. The suffragettes who fought for the right to vote, for their voice to be heard, they fight has been ridiculed too.
You can mock this, and I'm sure you will, there is no honour in getting your own way by whatever means.

No Anja it will come from ordinary people who have been pushed too far by an arrogant Parliament ( if it happens at all.)
However, it’s never over until it’s over, there is still the possibility of an election.
I don’t think anyone who voted to leave will ‘bear with’ the rebel Conservative MPs or any who voted for the motion last night.
I really feel for businesses gilly and GG13, the uncertainty
Is awful, you need to know, and MPs, by their actions are trying to push this uncertainty even further down the road.

Disagrees. We are still going to leave but with or without a deal is the question. That is what our MPs are fighting for.

I have no pension, no savings, no private health care and struggle to run a small business Anja . I will if I am lucky retire at 67.5 with a state pension and not a penny more. I voted remain as I saw that (and still do) as a way to protect jobs . Nothing short of a miracle or a lottery win would change my fortunes though. The point I am trying to make is that we have had 3 years of this rubbish and if we are going to leave we should bloomin we’ll get on with it . It is the sheer uncertainty of the situation that will kill business. The country voted leave . It is obvious that these rebels don’t want us to leave on any account so why don’t they just tell the bleeding truth ? Instead of bleating on about deals and no deals ?

This isn’t about stoping a no deal brexit, it’s about stopping brexit altogether - stop being so naive.
They’ll ask for another 6 month delay, then another 2 year delay, until everyone forgets about it. That’s their plan.
It’s beyond disgraceful.

If there is civil unrest it is likely to come from the far-right, hard-line Brexiteers. Those who voted leave on a ‘get rid of foreigners’ card. Recognisable by their shaven heads, Britain First T-shirts and xenophobia. Nigel Farrage’s Brexit Party will claim their votes.

What ever happens we MUST STOP A NO DEAL.

The pain and frustration you are feeling now at parliaments intransigence will be nothing compared to what you will feel like if we have the chaos of no deal.

There are only about 60 people in the commons who want no deal as well as Cummings. That should tell you all you need to know.

Bear with the parliamentarians as they go through this gargantuan struggle and support your MP in her/his effort to prevent no deal.

Well done them

'Traitors', 'enemy of the people'? Hyperbole.

What rioters?

The politicians have more information than we have about what a no deal would mean for this country. All they have done is attempt to stop a no deal. We vote these people in so if you want someone to blame, blame yourselves for voting them in.

Sorry, honest values, was meant, something those rioters have no conception of.

Anja, speaking as a small business owner, the uncertainty is what is going to damage our turnover!!!

We have supply contracts ready to go, that willl not go anywhere until this shower of MPs sort their s**t out!!!

Traitors, enemies

It's not a war, although Johnson likes to present it as such with talk of surrender and white flags.

It's a disgraceful use of deliberately inflammatory language.

I wouldn't surprised if we head towards a civil breakdown in this country. No democracy, this is not a free country, it is one that opposes democracy. We have been too tolerant of people who are really our enemies. I am glad I won't see the complete demise of this land. Feel so bad for my beautiful grandchildren, with their honest cal yes, witnessing these shamefull events of the last three years. It's been an utter disgrace. I will never go to France again, their petulant, aggressive attitude to keep us in, they need our money, no other reason, is hateful.