The family firm.

Ach Annie give it a rest,as a business owner who got the company through a recession AND didn't pay off any staff difficult decisions had to be made .Any one who has been in the same position will understand that principles take a back seat when people s livliehoods are at stake .Taking pictures of Lizzie for a long time client didn't make me a traitor to my cause .It made the client keep giving the business his work and the staff get paid .NOT that I should justify myself to you BUT Mrs Socialist of the year ...not. MY workforce were important to me and their security came first .Now back off and sort out your own issues .

Hear hear Day6 great post?

Day6 My working class roots are probably as strong as yours but I have the grace to recognise that I grew up in a socialist country where support was given "from the cradle to the grave". That my health was protected by an NHS which was not only free but provided support as well as medical treatment. That my free education began at the age of 3 in a state run nursery and continued through my life. That my family were accommodated in council housing which was not only affordable but met certain standards. That my family benefitted from the working conditions hard won by my grandfather and his union work. It is a source of disappointment and shame to me that those of my generation who benefitted from the actions of a Labour government and Labour activists have failed to hand those benefits down to succeeding generations. It is not envy but the politics of radicalism which have their roots in the terrible treatment meted out in the past to ordinary people by those who regard power as something to be inherited and not earned.
There have incidently always been wealthy middle class people who supported the Labour party. There have always been radical people who have money but also principles. Just as there have always been working class Tories who are willing to take the benefits won by activists but not to acknowledge them.

It is difficult to understand why paddyann made money from people she calls degenerates and parasites

Day6 the 15:38 post Not the subsequent one

Great post Day6, & Pantglas1

I can understand why people dislike the royals. I also understand that the royal family are a bit of an anachronism in this day and age.

Paddyann's opinions are just as valid as others.

The expensive refurbishment and renovation of Frogmore House made my blood boil. Harry is a very wealthy young man able to provide for himself and his family. His wife has millions in the bank too. No idea why the taxpayer should fund their expensive lifestyle in any way and why he doesn't have a job.

The level of criticism from her against the royals AND against posters on this thread surely wasn’t going to mean she’d get off scot free was it?

I know that a lot of people like the royal family but was the level of personal criticism levelled at Paddyann really warranted just because she doesn't agree?

Many of us from working class backgrounds can remember as youngsters being happy for the Royal Family when there was an 'event' in their lives.

However, Labour back then was very different from the Labour Party of today. Those of us who started out poor took our opportunities (against all the odds) to make something of ourselves. Those principles probably still apply to those disadvantaged in the UK of today. Being poor in the 50s when we had few rights, no advocates, no help and also felt much shame and discrimination meant that we had an uphill struggle, always.

Now we tend to see the politics of envy, the hatred of the wealthy, the anarchic (Marxist) desire to break the system and a Labour Party comprised of middle class wealthy people and supported by right-on wealthy people who haven't a clue what hardship is about. The Labour Party under Corbyn is not a monarchist one. As someone who has always striven to do my best and get by on my own efforts, I feel the Conservative party, not Labour, is more attuned to the needs of most, including the worse off. If you have aspirations of any sort, even modest ones, and earn money, (most of us?) beware Labour. A levelling down would be on the cards and the likes of Labour MP (Lady) Emily Thornberry, who sneers at the working man and his way of life makes me highly suspicious of 2019 style socialism.

Supporting the royal family is not a crime. If one accepts they are 'different' and always have been. They are a bit of a a distraction and a peep show involving, pomp, ceremony and pageantry for us mere mortals.

I do object to the size of the family the public is expected to support (I see Harry and Meghan as surplus to requirements now, for example) but not knowing the figures and which funds pay for what, I cannot be outraged by their existence. I suspect Charles may trim The Firm to immediate heirs/future monarchs when his time comes. I'd welcome that.

I only posted to make the point that money shouldn't come before deeply held principles.

I agree with that. I don't think anyone should be forced to provide a service or product for someone who compromises their beliefs or principles. However, in the world we live in now you can be accused of bigotry or discrimination if you refuse a customer.

Thank you all for your kind words. I only posted to make the point that money shouldn't come before deeply held principles.

Beckett, So sad for you, but hoping that your memories of a honourable man & husband are of some comfort to you.best wishes

Bekett your husband was a man who didn’t leave his principles at the door for a price, Truly a man of principles

Beckett so sorry.

He was GG13 unfortunately I lost him to cancer several years ago.

Beckett what a wonderful principled man your husband is.

Actually paddyann there are those who turn down work due to their principles.

DH was a builder, called to estimate turning a basement of a very large house into a "man cave". DH gave a verbal quote which was accepted. There was then further discussion about the project when the customer said he wanted to use the space to display his hunting trophies. He then showed DH some of these "trophies", animals he had shot on expeditions to Africa.

DH was passionate about animal conservation and immediately told the man he wouldn't carry out the work.

So she’s gone.....but surely she doesn’t believe that you can’t be a socialist and like the Queen? How does that work? All Labour voters want to get rid of the Queen?

GG13 your school is incredibly lucky. Even with the new funding announced most schools are having to cut their spending and sadly support staff are easy to lose. You can check how much your child's school is losing here schoolcuts.org.uk/schools/
My GCs school has lost £400+ per pupil
The National Education Union says
£66m for early years funding is wholly inadequate.

The Government needs to invest £300 million to restore cuts to early years provision.
There is still no money for maintained nursery schools that remain under threat of closure from next August.
Anyone with young children should be very worried about their child's education.

paddyann I don’t equal a photographer with a doctor ,you
Equal the work of Arthur the photographer for the Sun with doctors?

You were happy to make money from people you call parasites yet accuse me hypocrisy

It’s called , hypocrisy & missing the irony of one’s own actions

as I said before when I work I leave my personal feelings at the door ,its called being PROFESSIONAL , maybe thats something you dont undestand?
Where would we be if everyone who objected to someone else refused to do work for them> Patients sent home because doctors objected to their lifestyle for instance.
Of course you have your own brand of hypocrisy Annie ...lol.A SOCIALIST no less ...she says ...lol .Who is happy to see this kind of inequality .Now I really am out of this .I will do my utmost to avoid you on threads in the future ,Quite frankly your attitude to all this RF nonsense sickens me .Your not like ANY socialist I;ve ever come across .

Thanks Annie,
I just don’t get how some are so unaware of their own hypocrisy .?

Returning to the topic of the thread, the press photographing
a little Windsor starting school, sells papers, you made money for taking photographs of the Windsors paddyanne, no difference