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Bercow being ousted

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Urmstongran Sun 08-Sept-19 07:40:59

Business Secretary Andrea Leadsom confirms for the first time that the Conservative Party will defy convention and put up a candidate against him in the next Election.

absthame Sun 08-Sept-19 14:24:05

I've said it before on other threads, I am not keen on Bercow as a person, however I do believe that he has been the best Speaker in the last 60 years, since my involvement in politics gave me some sort of insight.

Not only has he been responsible for increasing the number and powers of committees, who hold the government to account but has also ensured that the attempts of governments to avoid scrutiny and increase their powers have been curtailed. Thereby maintaining the proper balance between parliament and the executive.

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 13:32:05

?meow pussycat.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 08-Sept-19 13:21:29

Ha, Ha, lemon Grove you are a one !! (Today 11:20 LittlemoO)

Isn't she just.

trisher Sun 08-Sept-19 11:44:15

I don't like Bercow but I think he has stood up to threats made by his own party to democracy. The shocking thing is that the tradition of not opposing the speaker has meant that the neutrality of the speaker has been maintained for hundreds of years. the role passing from one party to the other when a speaker steps down. That neutrality could be seriously threatened if the speaker begins to put party needs over proper parliamentary process because it's the only way to keep the job.

LittlemoO Sun 08-Sept-19 11:20:27

Ha, Ha, lemon Grove you are a one !! grin

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-19 11:15:21

He is a Tory MP, if not standing down he will have to be deselected ?

Sussexborn Sun 08-Sept-19 11:11:19

Great news. Disgusting toady man. Should have gone years ago.

Nandalot Sun 08-Sept-19 11:00:23

I don’t think he has done anything wrong. He has defended parliamentary democracy and without that where would we be? A dictatorship?
Anyway, he himself has said that he was standing down, but this might encourage him to change his mind.

EllanVannin Sun 08-Sept-19 10:55:23

Can't stand the man.

November the 5th sounds like a good idea !!

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 10:03:47

I thought that Bercow himself enjoyed defying convention?

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 10:02:22

He could say ‘Infamy, infamy......the’ve all got it in for me!’?

jura2 Sun 08-Sept-19 09:57:11

if he is made to go - that would be yet another dagger in the heart of Parliamentary democracy - and I predict a massive movement of support for him- and the above even more so.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 08-Sept-19 09:32:43

Just two points:

1. They need an election
2. Buckingham voted 51% remain and this is likely to have increased.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 09:32:18

True gg3

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 09:31:49

Bercow is our representative in parliament. The legislative body is our representative in parliament. Bercow supports the legislative and defends their interests when it is being attacked by government. Government has had its wings clipped by the people’s representative and they don’t like it.

We get rid of Bercow in this way at our peril.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 08-Sept-19 09:31:44

Yet another misleading title.

Amagran Sun 08-Sept-19 09:22:37

This country has a Parliamentary Democracy*. Bercow has simply supported this fundamental principle. We elect MPs who make decisions on our behalf*. All Bercow has done is to enable the democratic process and to stop senior members of the government from subverting and running rough-shod over it. In other words, he was doing his job, whether or not we like it or him.

*Which is why the referendum could only ever by advisory.

Alima Sun 08-Sept-19 09:14:40

Wouldn’t say I am mad about democracy, seems a weird thing to say. I am pro democracy though. That’s out of the window now isn’t it? The Remain MPs won’t allow democracy to take its course. The gloves are off and both sides are digging in, to hell with the electorate.

Davidhs Sun 08-Sept-19 09:10:13

I think Bercow did an excellent job of silencing the rowdy commons and allowing our PM to speak - and dig himself in even deeper.
Of course Bercow was manipulating the agenda but the majority of MPs wanted that, isn’t that what he is there for, to ensure the will of parliament.

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-19 09:05:32

There is no parliamentary law against standing against the speaker , it is a custom.

Is it democracy that voters in the constituency of the speaker
cannot vote ?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 09:05:02

lucky exactly.

Boosgran Sun 08-Sept-19 09:02:39

Good. Fingers crossed they rid of him.

Luckygirl Sun 08-Sept-19 09:01:38

Not mad about Bercow myself, but I am mad about democracy. He has done nothing wrong.

Nico97 Sun 08-Sept-19 08:58:08

Sorry GG13 crossed posts smile

Nico97 Sun 08-Sept-19 08:57:11

Back to the thread - can't happen soon enough for Bercow.