Government watch

Something to be understood

Prof. Colin Talbot
Let's be very clear.

No judge has accepted Johnson's excuse for Proroguing Parliament for 5 weeks. None. Nobody seriously believes this was about anything but silencing Parliament over Brexit.

The only dispute is whether or not the Courts can intervene in this process.

Thu 12-Sep-19 11:26:44 - So true varian

And now NI have muddied the waters.......

He gets round it by the fact that he didn't personally speak to the Queen. his aides did, and probably to her aides.

BJ could easily prove he didn't lie if he published the internal communications relating to proroguing as he has been directed to do by parliament.

If he has nothing to hide why does he not do this?

He also had the opportunity to provide a sworn statement to the Scottish Court but declined, presumable because he did not want to perjure himself.

Perhaps someone has taken him to one side and explained to him what lying is.

He doesn't know what lying is; lies are just words that come out of his mouth like a sort of verbal diarrhoea.

Boris has denied lying to the Queen - that's all right then, the Scottish court must have been mistaken.

An interesting piece this morning, in an email from the Economist. It was describing the new Margaret Attwood sequel - The Testaments which, it claims, "explores the workings of repression.

Referring back to the Hand-maids Tale it declares "described the new regimes brutality from Offred's perspective only, showing how a politician's promise of a better future "never means better for everyone ... it always means worse, for some."

At the moment we are just uncovering the "some" it will be worse for if we leave without a deal I feel.

Labaik!

A rubber stamp could do the work of the Queen. She serves no political purpose.

It is reported that Johnson is trying to find a way to get the rebels back onside.

His strategy is quite extraordinary.

Q. Do we believe he has one?

A. Of course not ?

If anyone has not watched ‘The Great Hack’ do, especially if you are worried about how our data was gathered without our knowledge.

an Howes #FBPE ?? #StopBrexit #Sodem AKA Mack
@ianhowes1970

Anyone read the letter from Gove to Grieve?

Interesting that he cites European Convention on Human Rights as a reason for not giving the balance of info requested

Oh the irony...

We'll be fine with this lot in charge....

Thanks for that.
Doesn't make comfortable reading, does it?
Any brexit Polyannas around to assure us that it's all fine?
Or spout that other mantra that we should just wait patiently and not panic?

A poster on mumsnet has linked this document

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

One seat? Is that Kate Hoey?

Farage is a real chancer - at the moment his party has at the most one seat. Though to be fair, they had a bigger proportion of votes. He wants proportional representation.

Going on behind closed doors

Tom Newton Dunn
@tnewtondunn
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Excl: Nigel Farage has told Boris Johnson his price for an election deal - a free run for the Brexit Party in 80-90 seats
* Farage thinks he’d win “40 to 50” of them now
* Also wants WA replaced by 2 year standstill
* ‘scoping’ conversations have started

Aparently BJ did not have to give HM any reason for proroguing parliament.

He just sent three Privy Councillors to tell her that was what he wanted and HM has to act on the assumption that these PCs are honourable and advising what is in the nation's best interest.

However these PCs should not have been trusted, as the highest Court in Scotland has decided and so HM was misled.

I've just been watching a replay of the proceedings following prorogation (on BBC ) .
The main person in the HoL read out a statement from the Queen about 'my government' and what they'd achieved and plan to do.
Poor old Liz, at her age she must be thoroughly exhausted with politics. I wonder if Johnson actually spoke to her personally about his reason for prorogation, or to one of her aides? After that he and Carrie spent the night there.
We haven't heard much about that.
Personally, I'm so upset and disgusted with all the dishonesty, by self seeking politicians and their sycophants.
All I can do is pray that those who still have moral values will be able to hold out.

Jess Phillips Esq., M.P.
@jessphillips

Boris Johnson has lied to every other woman in his life, why he'd make an exception for the queen seems unlikely.

Charlie Falconer
@LordCFalconer
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Lord Chancellor should put a stop to this nonsense immediately. Upholding the rule of law means ensuring government does not attack the judges for decisions the government doesn’t alike. Appeal if you don’t like it, don’t undermine the judges as if they were politicians.

Her Majesty was ill advised and misled by 3 Privy Councillors.

They did not apparently have to give her a reason for the advice to prerogue parliament.

The Privy Council is required to advise the Monarch in the best interests of the nation and instead they advised her in what they considered to be the best interests of the Conservative party.

This is outrageous.

Jolyon Maugham QC - Parliament doesn't need to be recalled as it's never been suspended after today's ruling.. so parliamentarians should be knocking on the door of the Palace of Westminster...