Stop ignoring the 50 million

Meant the Leave voters apart from me and OH were UNDER the age of 34.

Six adults in my close family. Five voted Leave, one voted Remain. All professional people. All but one with degrees. No one older than 65. Leave voters all under the age of 34.

These specious Remainer arguments about age and wisdom of Leave voters are getting very tedious. Grasping at straws or what?

Come on Varian stop digging yourself into an even deeper hole. Let it rest - pretty please

Statistically, taking account of the age distribution and death rate, it can easily be demonstrated that (with a very high degree of confidence), more than 1 million leave voters have died since June 2016.

And statistically, varian, if horses had been created with a horn in the middle of their heads, it could easily be demonstrated that we'd have unicorns. But they weren't. And we haven't.

Advisory? Well the advice was taken when MP'S signed up for article50!

Never mind how much the EU costs us---look how much foreign aid we send to affected countries !

Who's going to prop this country up after we leave ?
How can we, as a small country which is heavily populated, manage to survive without funding from the EU when big businesses are folding and wealthy business people are fleeing the country ?

Without EU funding in Liverpool and other areas, these town centres would have collapsed into dereliction.

Who's going to invest in this country now ? It's insane !!

.....although enough is as good as a feast.

varian you are a poster on Brexit who is a gift that just keeps on giving.
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Heading that way? ???
For the last three years!

Varian are you being paid by a “remain consortium” or just being encouraged by your local Liberal Democrat Association?

Oh, for heavens sake Varian you are starting to sound like a ranting extremist, whose views are just laughed off. I am sure you are not, but you are certainly heading that way.

What a peculiar post!!??

Chewbacca posts-

"So far on this thread varian, you have claimed that Over 1 million leave voters have since died and that people who were not legally entitled to vote in 2016 would have voted to remain if they were to vote now."

Both statements are true. Statistically, taking account of the age distribution and death rate, it can easily be demonstrated that (with a very high degree of confidence), more than 1 million leave voters have died since June 2016.

There are a large number of young people who were disenfranchised in June 2016 but would now be entitled to vote. I did not claim that all would vote Remain but numerous polls have shown that most would.

My point is that given that the fraudulent referendum has not been annulled because it was only advisory (but would have been had it been mandatory) and given that we all now know far more about the likely consequenses of brexit, we should be allowed to say if this disastrous potential future is what any of us actually want.

Monica good post.

Varian As you know, I am, and have always been a remainer, and I am still one, but this continual, bickering on trivial aspects of the EU referendum is doing neither you, nor our cause any good at all.

David Cameron, because he was so sure he would win set up a very rough ready Referendum that was full of flaws, but Parliament approved it and he ended up with a Brexit result.

That's it, we are going to leave the EU, most remainers have accepted it, but we have been dogged by remainers like you who instead of putting all their efforts in a making sure we got a Leave agreement that was fair to all, the very many who voted Remain as well as the majority who voted Leave, has been unable to move on and continues to fight lost causes.

Your arguments over trivia are getting nobody anywhere. All they have done has been to bring us to the point where we face a No Deal Brexit, which is just about the worst possible result for everybody.

The referendum was in 2016. It may have been advisory, but it was effectively binding, that three years later it hasn't yet been implemented is unfortunate, but it could have been done much earlier.

There is nothing you can do about it now.

Police have dropped the investigation into Leave.EU due to insufficient evidence.

So far on this thread varian, you have claimed that Over 1 million leave voters have since died and that people who were not legally entitled to vote in 2016 would have voted to remain if they were to vote now.

Both of these statements are, quite frankly, ridiculous and unworthy of you. We lost the vote. It matters not one jot that those who were under 18, in 2016, may/may not have voted to remain. They had no legal right to a vote at that time and so its utterly pointless to bring them into the equation. Likewise 1,000,00 dead people.

The 2016 referendum was -

strictly advisory, not mandatory-

and as it has now been proved, fraudulent, won by lies, cheating and foriegn interference.

There is absolutely no reason to act on it, especially that we now know that brexit would be disastrous for our country.

We are NOT lemmings.

Liam Bones, former Deputy Chairman of North Tyneside Conservatives, having campaigned for Leave in 2016 has changed his mind.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaK3tQB9MPo

EVERYONE had the chance to vote.

Of those that voted, the out come was that they voted to leave.

So shall we disregard them for those that either couldn't be bothered or who did not win the vote?

But that's academic varian, surely you see that? It doesn't matter that "x number of people were below voting age pre referendum but are now 3 and a half years older." What matters is that, at the time of the referendum, they weren't eligible to vote at all. But if just 3% of those who were eligible to vote in June 2016, had actually got up and used their votes, we wouldn't be in this situation now.

You can't put the clock back, no matter how much you wish you could. And to continue to ruminate on whatifs and might've's is a total waste of time. and tedious

Jane1956, you INSTANTLY cancel out your argument with the childish 'remoaners' nickname. At least get clever with your insults instead of repeating someone else's really weak one. What are you, a Trumper?

This pathetic Daily Express jargon is getting tedious and certainlty not "worth mentioning".

As I understand it "Remoaners" is an insult directed against folk who voted Remain.

"Didn't get off their bums to vote" is an insult directed towards people who may not have voted, some because they realised that the question was very complicated and they had not been given adequate information, and some who should have been able to vote but couldn't. like Brits living in the EU who did not get their voting papers in time.

In addition to that there are now a huge number of people who have been paying taxes and should be able to vote but were disenfranchised, like those who were under eighteen at the time but are now three and a half years older and the three and a half million EU citizens, many of whom have lived here for most of their lives and have contributed to our society in many ways.

Said before but worth mentioning again the people who you say are being ignored are remoaners and didn't get off their bums to vote so cannot complain now

I'm totally with you, Varian. The referendum was pre-legislative and simply advisory, there was no requirement that the government should implement the results. Given that the majority of MPs voted remain they should have stuck to their guns and done what they considered best for the country. I despair of our government.