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Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Sept-19 10:02:42

I thought it was time to outline the policies as they get put out for public consumption, of the next Government, in order that it gives us time digest their intentions.

Brexit

A new Agreement will be negotiated which will ensure the protection of business and jobs by as far as possible, causing the least disruption to our economy and drawing the biggest chance of reconciliation from the factions in the U.K.
This will of course not satisfy either the hard leavers or remainers, but these are in the minority.

The Agreement will ensure that like Norway the UK remains in close single market alignment, ensuring that our protections remain and highest standards maintained.

Northern Ireland will be protected from potential violence, by the U.K. negotiated a comprehensive Customs Union. The farming community will no longer be faced with huge disruption or bankruptcy.

Once an agreement is finalised, it is proposed that it be put to the voter, together with the option to remain.

The voter can finally decide on truth, not lies, because it will be crystal clear what the outcome of each choice will be.

The Government will remain neutral in the voters choice, but will carry out the voters instructions.

Witzend Sat 21-Sept-19 17:15:31

One thing I wish a government of whatever colour would do, is to introduce compulsory registration of ALL landlords - and provide the funds/resources for councils to check and enforce decent standards.
Besides cracking down on poor/negligent LLs, it would I'm sure go a long way to stop non payment of tax on rental income, which I'm firmly convinced is still rife.
And I say this as a LL myself.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 17:00:51

In the theme of the climate change protests.

Labour will plant a million trees on NHS hospital grounds.

What a clever idea.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 21-Sept-19 16:44:36

Whitewavemark2 (Sat 21-Sep-19 12:59:12)

Thanks Whitewave.

varian Sat 21-Sept-19 16:42:58

I agree WWmk2.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 16:35:38

Ah - I see.

Shame really, because I think that the Lib Dem’s have more in common with Labour than the Tories.

Never mind. Let’s see what the future brings and try not to create division, where none really exists.

It is bad enough as it is.

varian Sat 21-Sept-19 16:01:15

Luciana Berger left the Labour Party after twenty years because she has seen how "Labour has changed beyond recognition. It is now institutionally antisemitic, overtaken by the far left and consumed by a Brexiteer leadership."

She is certainly not alone in her opinion.

This is highly relevant to Labour Party members attending the party conference and seeing just how powerful factions are continuing to dominate the agenda.

It is also relevant to many who have voted Labour in the past but now have grave doubts about both the current state of the party and about Jeremy Corbyn, whose approval rating (-60%) is the lowest of any leader ever recorded. (Approval rating is the % of voters who think he is doing a good job minus the % who think he is doing a bad job).

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 15:48:55

Have you posted on the correct thread varian?

Berger left the Labour Partyin February, so it is old news really. I believe she joined the Lib Dem’s after change failed to take off about 2 weeks ago.

varian Sat 21-Sept-19 15:44:01

Luciana Berger MP tells us why she has joined the LibDems-

"This is a moment of national crisis.

Leaving the Labour party after being a member for almost 20 years was one of the hardest decisions of my life. But Labour has changed beyond recognition. It is now institutionally antisemitic, overtaken by the far left and consumed by a Brexiteer leadership.

My values remain the same. I fundamentally believe in equality, opportunity for everyone, social justice and the unequivocal, unqualified condemnation of discrimination.

I am proud to be an internationalist. I know the UK can play a leading role in the world. We can best do this as members of the European Union. That is why I have fought tooth and nail to stop Brexit through a people’s vote.

The Liberal Democrats today best represent my values and are unequivocal in wanting to stop Brexit and are committed to securing Britain’s future as a tolerant, open and inclusive society.

At this moment of national emergency I am joining Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats, to offer a vital, positive alternative to Johnson and Corbyn. I want to help build a future that our country deserves."

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 12:59:12

For those northern grans.

A group of northern Labour MPs including Yvette Cooper, Tracy Brabin, Gloria De Piero and Melanie Onn are set to unveil a manifesto for reviving the region's neglected towns at party conference on Monday.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 12:50:52

My bet is on a Norway style agreement.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 12:48:08

Brexit plans

Seem eminently sensible, and one to be put to the electorate.

Retain the existing withdrawal agreement, but at the same time renegotiate the future relationship document, which is straightforward.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 12:36:47

McDonnell has announced interest free loans for electric cars.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 12:29:07

Actually the brain drain is already happening because many high skilled scientific jobs have left the U.K. and gone to the EU countries.

Eloethan Sat 21-Sept-19 12:25:46

Sussexborn Have you got any relevant points to support your views or are you only capable of making rude comments?

The "brain drain" has been going on for some time now and has been accelerated by Conservative policies - eg wasting money on championing and paying for "free schools" and increasing the number of academies, encouraging schools, colleges and universities to see themselves primarily as businesses rather than places of learning. Additionally, leaving the EU is projected to cause an acceleration of skilled professionals, leaving the UK, especially in the fields of science and technology, since the co-operation between research and academic bodies and the exchange of skills and information will be impeded when we leave the EU.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 21-Sept-19 11:30:33

I imagine we may get more meat on the bones of the policies over the next few days Whitewave. It will be interesting to see what comes out of the conference.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sept-19 09:30:58

The next Government has been developing its economic policies, and people in the most unexpected places have been indicating their approval.

A city analyst told the Telegraph that “We see the magnitude of economic damage of a no-deal Brexit as much higher than the policies proposed by the Labour Party”
Labour has become decisively more economically safe than a profligate Conservative Government..

Senior people in the City have said that McDonnell, far from appearing like a Marxist as his detractors like to describe him, in fact behaves and talks like a bank manager.
The same thing is being said by business journalists. The FT has indicated that Labour policies are sensible as had The Economist.

Labours main policies have public approval

Re-nationalise the railways

Introduce a more equitable tax system

Put more policemen on the streets

Avoid foreign wars that lead to terrorism.

Labour is attempting to tackle and confront the crises of capitalism and climate breakdown, and how it affects people’s lives.

But clearing up the mess left by the Tories will be a thankless task.

Beckett
21/09

Grany Wed 18-Sept-19 16:46:12

The next government

Compensation & Recognition for WASPI woman

Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Sept-19 14:01:25

The next government recognised the disaster that universal credit has been for the underprivileged. It has set up a Policy Commission, recording and assessing evidence from MPs, Charities, campaigners etc. And found overwhelming evidence that they wanted a radical overhaul of the system and many want it totally scrapped

It recognises that it has contributed to the rise in homelessness, child poverty and food banks.

The next government is proposing to initially to look at a major overhaul of the system, whilst retaining some of the benefit sanctions.

But there is no doubt that the UC as a brand has become toxic and synonymous with cuts and hardship.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 18-Sept-19 13:43:18

Anniebach fairly accurate ????

Pantglas2 Wed 18-Sept-19 13:23:50

Ooh Anniebach - stand well clear.....there will be blood.....!

Anniebach Wed 18-Sept-19 13:21:28

MacDonald - ‘Jeremy there is a cab waiting outside your office.

Corbyn - thank you John, where am I going ?

MacDonald- Bucking Palace to see the Queen

Corbyn - what do you want me to say John ?

MacDonald - as usual Jeremy your script has been written for
you, just read it and repeat

GracesGranMK3 Wed 18-Sept-19 13:15:49

Sussexborn As a grandfather you would think you might have learned better manners.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 18-Sept-19 13:13:50

Whitewave thank you. That will all make interesting reading.

Sussexborn Wed 18-Sept-19 12:49:05

WWMK2 obviously thinks if he repeats himself often enough his thoughts will become facts. My GS used to do this when he was two years old.

At what point is JC going to be bundled in to a car for his “visit” to HM. What has the poor woman done to deserve said visit?

When does the next brain drain begin when all the bright and talented young people finally realise just what they have brought down on themselves?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Sept-19 12:39:08

The next government recognises overwhelming support to nationalise the UKs rail system. After the re-nationalisation of the East Coast Line in 2009, public satisfaction rocketed to 91% as did the profits of £8.4bn. £224 million of which was handed back to the Dept. Of Transport.

It has looked at other countries who have a nationalised rail system which include.

America
Canada
India
France
Germany
Spain
Italy
Japan
And many others.

All these countries recognise the need for the country wide integrated means of train transport in a post capitalist economy, run from a central source.

It recognises the huge benefits from a rail service run for the benefit of the entire Kingdom, with overall control of timetables, maintenance etc. The profits which are vast can be ploughed back into the railways to ensure we bring our rail service onto date serving a modern post capitalist economy.

At present the government gives a huge amount of funding towards their running (approx£4bn pa) this could in future come from the profit which st present goes towards enormous CEO salaries and share holder dividends.

Each franchise will not be renewed as it comes to the end of its life, and the government will take over the running of each franchise as it ends.