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Whitewavemark2 Thu 19-Sept-19 08:56:25

I am a firm believer in the BBC as it was first set up to be an independent institution, but am alarmed at the way it is so often becoming the “news” rather than the messenger.

Today a very controversial interviewer is retiring. John Humphreys, who has been criticised so frequently for his apparent biased.
Yesterday Laura Kuenssberg set social media alive with criticism.

My argument is this. We need a world class broadcasting media. One which in the past is just that, but undoubtedly has lost its way over recent years. It has become dangerously close to losing its independence in many of its broadcasts, and in my view if it continues we will lose the once outstanding, quality and proudly independent broadcaster, for which we all pay and have a stake in.

pinkquartz Thu 19-Sept-19 21:00:12

I also do not like the BBC for news
I usually try to watch Channel 4 news. I think it is less biased and also has different issues, not just sensational headlines.

I also think a lot of the BBC is opinions rather than facts......so not really news.
I agree that the Dad confronting Johnson did not need to be described as a Labour supporter....he was there because his child was ill. Not posing. What was Johnson doing there? I turned the TV off in disgust.

GinJeannie Thu 19-Sept-19 20:54:29

Very true comments re The One Show....it’s just a platform now for celebrities to promote their latest something. W3 now watch The Repair Shop, same time, BBC 2, an absolute joy to see craftsmanship at work and its appreciation.

SunnySusie Thu 19-Sept-19 20:25:59

One of the things that most annoys me about the BBC is its news web site. Virtually no news on it and loads of magazine type features. People all over the world look at the BBC web site and it could serve a very useful function for those who live in countries with no free press at all. Also not at all in favour of the habit across the media of interviewing Joe Bloggs in the street, who trots out some spur of the moment comment which is given the same status as informed remarks from those actually involved. The Beeb in particular, as a licence fee supported channel, should stop doing this as a lazy way of pretending to represent both sides of a debate.

MaizieD Thu 19-Sept-19 18:40:33

I expect they're all Labour activist Remainers, too, varian wink

Best Leaver conspiracy theory I saw on twitter yesterday was that it's Remainers on Johnson's staff who are setting up these situations where members of the public accost him when he's out and about... hmm

varian Thu 19-Sept-19 17:16:03

Doctors in that hospital have backed up what the father said.

MaizieD Thu 19-Sept-19 17:14:20

The relevant fact in the hospital story, GG54 is that Johnson lied about the presence of the press. Looked straight at the camera and lied.

The details of the father and the child being bandied around are just gossip and hearsay. I've seen them all on twitter; not worth taking any notice of.

maddyone Thu 19-Sept-19 17:09:43

Agree Gabriella.

GabriellaG54 Thu 19-Sept-19 16:55:56

Hazelgran1
Would the father of the child have been as eager to lay into Boris had there been no cameras?
He was looking for an argument but pilloried the wrong man as BJ has barely got his feet under the table.
His background was relevant as it paints the picture for viewers, otherwise it would not have been a headline.
The story about his child wasn't factually correct anyway. He exaggerated to make it sound bad.
Some father...?

Emelle Thu 19-Sept-19 15:53:53

Margs - I too am a 'Waspi' lady and I am becoming ever more angry at the lack of reporting of our State Pension issues although the BBC do cover Pension protests in other countries like France and Brazil. Even when we took our protest to Media City they didn't send a reporter and camera out to cover the Rally. In fact they shut the blinds on the windows of Offices in Quay House and turned off the webcam covering the Plaza. A variety of reasons have been given for this but I suspect the main reason is that they cannot or will not cover the issues affecting 3.8 million women. I am not a fan of the BBC!

ayse Thu 19-Sept-19 15:28:38

Depending on each person’s political leanings, commentators suggest the BBC has either a left or right wing bias.

I am with the comments concerning the lack of news from Europe and the never ending news about what is happening in the USA.

As we are closer to Europe in miles I would like to have some idea what is happening there. For example, in Hungary the government is supporting rather alarming “right wing” policies. Other posters have already mentioned the jilet jaune, which these days is rarely mentioned.

Having said that the best presentations are those that include two or more contributors with differing opinions, not that this happens very often. I find the lack of factual information and more opinion is rampant these days. We only ever seem to be given the headlines.

Nevertheless, I try to listen to the news on Radio 4 daily just to get a feel for what is going on.

I agree that the BBC is less independent than it used to be and this is cause for concern. It used to be the most trusted news but now I’m not sure. There is so much so called fake news about that can any of us honestly say that what we see and hear on the media are the facts not just someone’s interpretation of events, spiced up with their own bias included.

Zahorodnyj0909 Thu 19-Sept-19 15:10:52

The BBC (Biased Broadcasting Corporation) is run by the Tory Government. Also, I was at a rally recently at Media City. Hundreds of ladies were outside the BBC building in the hope that the BBC would report in the pension injustice affecting 1950’s born women (Waspi, WePaidInYouPayOut, etc.) The BBC actually closed their office blinds on us! No mention of us on BBC news but ITV did.

maryhoffman37 Thu 19-Sept-19 14:40:23

How can anyone think the BBC is left wing and pro-Corbyn?

eazybee Thu 19-Sept-19 13:44:07

To be criticised from both sides is a good thing. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

So true, Parsley. Just common sense.
Whitewave is simply having her pearl-clutching moment today.

Parsley3 Thu 19-Sept-19 13:28:59

For the BBC to be accused of bias by both left and right wing supporters tells us that we are filtering our opinions through our own beliefs. I bristled when the main sports feature was about cricket although European women golfers had just won the Solheim Cup. Clearly a bias towards males and cricket, I thought. And I believed it too.
To be criticised from both sides is a good thing. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

MaizieD Thu 19-Sept-19 13:18:26

I’d close it down and use the money for NHS.

Just put that on the side of a red bus, Whinginmom and you could be our next prime minister.. grin

Mardler123 Thu 19-Sept-19 13:17:43

I have been so cheered up by these postings. As the BBC is being accused of left wing bias and right wing bias at the same time then as far as I am concerned it is doing the job of balanced reporting.

Whingingmom Thu 19-Sept-19 13:14:32

It’s a State Broadcaster, not needed, past it’s sell by date and full over over paid self important buffoons and luvvies. I’d close it down and use the money for NHS.

NfkDumpling Thu 19-Sept-19 13:00:35

Perhaps more of us might have voted Remain if the BBC had included more European news in their broadcasts and we felt more included. As Griselda says we hear very little about the Gilet Jaunes or anything at all about the other EU countries. We could do with a half hour of nothing but EU news each evening.

humptydumpty Thu 19-Sept-19 12:47:56

Isn't Tom Bradby ITV?

sarahellenwhitney Thu 19-Sept-19 12:45:54

Why doesn't the BBC do what they are paid to do which spelled out says PRESENT.
Keep it at that which is far from what we are now getting which quite clearly ends in and seems the norm these days as a 'free for all' for the self opinionated.

Nanny27 Thu 19-Sept-19 11:56:01

I agree that Laura Kuenssberg is just about the most biased Westminster correspondent I've known. In the studio, the snide little asides and smirks by Tom Bradbury are shocking.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 19-Sept-19 11:50:23

ican. Re Johns remark about no press.

Look at the No 10 crib drawn up before the visit.

It was carried out with the full intention of a pre-election visit and the visit was recorded to be put out to the public.

Johnson lies lies lies

icanhandthemback Thu 19-Sept-19 11:46:53

Well, this is an interesting topic! I find myself shouting at the tv sometimes about how left wing it is and the bias towards remain. I suspect that others watch the same thing and perceive it entirely differently because we all tend to latch on to things that coincide with our belief system.
As for the father regarding the NHS, I think if you describe yourself as a Labour Activist, post about it on Social Media, then you shouldn't be surprised if that is publicised by a journalist. I don't see it as bias at all. Social Media which is not locked down to friends only is fair game and as an activist, it is probably what you want because their is more publicity. I would have liked to know Boris's interpretation of "no press here." Did he mean that he hadn't invited them? confused

Margs Thu 19-Sept-19 11:39:27

As a WASPI I'm appalled at the way the BBC could cover the French protests over the changes to their State Pension but ne'er a whisper about 1950's women being hung out to dry (and told to "get an apprenticeship!").

So - which of the 'suits' at the Beeb is bowing to the will of the current government and following orders to ignore us?

OK, rant over....

Annaram1 Thu 19-Sept-19 11:17:36

I watch the BBC news, ITV, and RT and Aljazeera in order to see more of what is going on in the world. RT and Aljazeera have good coverage of the French yellow vest protests, and also Israeli news, US news, Hong Kong etc. Its not just Russian or Arab propaganda, as some like to think. They often have interesting documentaries too, sometimes about pollution and other matters, not just in Britain.