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Labour Party’s deputy leader

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Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 09:01:17

Lansman and McClusky want rid of Tom Watson. The NEC
voted on this last night, didn’t get enough votes so will vote
again this morning.

Corbyn didn’t know !

Ilovecheese Sat 21-Sep-19 11:53:50

This idea of voting to abolish the deputy leader has now been dropped after intervention by Jeremy Corbyn, according to the Guardian.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sep-19 11:55:14

Yes cheese Corbyn intervened.

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 11:55:39

After Corbyn was contacted by very angry Labour MP’s

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sep-19 11:59:28

Benn and Miliband agree with Corbyn.

Hilary Benn Retweeted

Ed Miliband
@Ed_Miliband
The move to abolish the deputy leader post without warning or debate is undemocratic, wrong and should not happen. Those who came up with the idea for the eve of Labour Conference have taken leave of their senses.

Hot line to
Labour HQ annie?

suziewoozie Sat 21-Sep-19 12:02:04

??What on earth is going on - pushing the self destruct button doesn’t come close as a description and I woukd guess that many members who don’t like Watson would feel despair at this chain of events.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Sep-19 12:03:32

Move along, nothing more to see here.

Motion withdrawn.

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 12:07:21

Motion withdrawn for now

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 13:32:26

The NEC hold a vote to get rid of the Deputy Leader and Corbyn the party leader didn’t know !

jura2 Sat 21-Sep-19 13:37:49

Grandad- thanks for your reply. However 'So, not much chance of becoming active in the Labour Party at this point in time. ' ... you can be a member of a Party without being 'active' on the ground.

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 13:41:20

Unbelievable, Diane Abbott claims the attempt to remove Tom Watson is - a media story

absthame Sat 21-Sep-19 13:41:43

The primary intention of Momentum \Corbyn clique has never been to gain political power but it is committed to the destruction of our political and social systems to facilitate the formation of a Soviet style of government and society. However as in similar attempts around the world it relies upon convincing a gullible membership and population to follow the 'kindly Uncle Joes“ for success to be achieved. I ain't following any Jo Stalin or Corbyn.

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 14:05:03

Agree absthame

trisher Sat 21-Sep-19 15:29:37

oh absthame if that wasn't so pathetic it would be funny. We have a Labour party committed to caring for the poorest in our society, to re-establishing the sort of socialism we grew up under and they are accused of being Stalins. it just shows how well the right wing media machine is working!

Grany Sat 21-Sep-19 15:30:03

What's this stupid name calling Stalinist left Marxist and even anti semitism The excellent and transformative polices, The Green Revolution, that will create thousands of jobs, saving out NHS and properly funding it, are what you should be thinking about. Mr Jeremy Corbyn is a very fine leader dignified respectful and a pacifist. He has campaigned against racism in all its forms all his life and won two peace awards. Econonomists have all said McDonnell plans are what is needed now. Your comments are all from the billionaire newspaper owners of the mainly right press and MSM who surprisingly don't want a Corbyn Labour government, that should make you think.

It's a lovely sunny day here and have been out had a picnic with family. So really don't want to argue with people who won't change their minds, we all got a choice who we vote for.

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 16:57:03

Latest poll shows Corbyn less popular that Michael Foot .

humptydumpty Sat 21-Sep-19 17:08:29

LP is no worse than CP in that they're being manipulated behind the scenes by Dominic Cummings. At least the LP has it's heart in the right place..

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 17:26:41

What was Lansman’s reason for doing this the evening before
the start of the conference?

Grandad1943 Sat 21-Sep-19 17:45:39

I believe that the motion to abolish the office of Deputy Leader should have remained on the order paper of the Annual Delegate Conference this morning. Watson had complained that he was elected to that office in the same ballot that elected Jeremy Corbyn as leader but was to be ejected from that office by a decision of the National Executive Committee.

Therefore there could have been no better or democratic method of deciding whether that position should be retained than allowing the highest body in the Labour Party Structure (the Annual Delegate Conference) to make that decision.

Watson would have had the opportunity to address all the grassroots delegates in the main hall and state his case in regards to his office and his personal behaviour while holding that Deputy Leader position.

Of course, Watson choose not to object to the motion being withdrawn as he is well aware that he has no standing with those rank and file delegates, so undoubtedly he would have witnessed his office being abolished in the vote.

Withdrawing the motion, I believe, will prove to be regretted as Watson will continue his destructive behaviour within the Parliamentary Party supported by the usual MPs that have never accepted Jeremy Corbyn's election as leader.

Anniebach Sat 21-Sep-19 17:53:44

Could it be the vote yesterday was fixed so Corbyn could come forward this morning a strong leader who calmed the waters

absthame Sat 21-Sep-19 21:48:23

Ohh trisher I wish your views of mine were right, unfortunately I was fighting against his ilk 50 years ago, alongside and mentored by people who had been fighting such fights since the 20s and then served in Spain with the international Brigade. I'd much rather follow their leads, although they are now long departed, than shams like Corbyn and many around him.

If he represents the members as he claims why has he steadfastly refused to follow last year's conference decisions on Brexit, rather than spending a year making the LP unelectable. Why has momentum determined that it's priority is to cause further division within the party thereby increasing the risks of a rabid Tory government come the election, or is that all simply bad judgement?

There is no chance. Of a democratic socialist government under their corrupting influences, just a promise of a Tory government followed by massed demonstrations and civil unrest. If they are successful in their cause they will make the rate riots seem like a quiet Sunday outing

bmacca Sat 21-Sep-19 22:11:04

It is just a bit pathetic that Labour not sacking the Deputy Leader is bigger news than when the Tories sacked Philip Hammond. And Ken Clarke. And Dominic Grieve. And 18 others. In a day. Anyway Lansman agrees with Corbyn. Let’s see what happens

growstuff Sat 21-Sep-19 22:27:14

The only Labour government when I was a child was from 1964-1970, but I don't think Harold Wilson is considered as a particularly shining example of socialism.

trisher Sun 22-Sep-19 10:40:17

growstuff Society until the '80s was based and run on the principles and ideas established by the Labour government after WW2. You have illustrated exactly the problem, many don't appreciate the society they had, and don't realise that the basic principles remained, regardless of the party in power.

Anniebach Sun 22-Sep-19 10:51:41

The country didn’t want a labour government of the sixties and seventies hence 14 years in the wilderness

trisher Sun 22-Sep-19 11:06:31

If you can post a single policy absthame that indicates what you say you fear might happen I would like to know it. As far as communism goes I do know some real communists but they consider Corbyn and the Labour party positively right wing. There isn't as you seem to imagine any sort of process for introducing communism by the back door.