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Labour Party Conference - chaos reigns.

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Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 15:09:43

Chaos - after two days. It's not going well.

Labour has had

an MP suspension mooted
the senior adviser to Corbyn quitting,
revelations the membership want to sack the queen
and call a general strike.

and all while 15 points behind the Tories.

It's all a bit reminiscent of militant Labour, isn't?

Momentum, the controlling force, is looking to replace Corbyn with another hard left Trot/Marxist leader.

What on earth has happened to Labour? shock

Grandad1943 Sun 22-Sept-19 22:34:16

Urmstongran, Johnson is caught on parliaments hook in regards to a General Election, and he will now have to sort out the Brexit crisis he and his Tory party have brought on this nation before any General Election will be held

All the opposition parties in the House of Commons were unanimous in bringing that welcome situation about.

Anniebach Sun 22-Sept-19 22:31:39

I truly believe the NEC vote to get rid of Tom Watson was a fix. The day before the start of the party conference!

Urmstongran Sun 22-Sept-19 22:28:15

However, I feel there will be an "awful amount of water to flow under the bridge before that Election is held."

Well Grandad that’s true enough - Corbyn doesn’t want one, even though Boris offered!

Anniebach Sun 22-Sept-19 22:27:25

He is such a worm Day6, refused to take part in tv debates leading to the referendum, even went on holiday.

The only party leader who refuses to declare he is for remain
Or leave . That is leading ?

Grandad1943 Sun 22-Sept-19 22:26:00

Day6 you state in your post @21:57 today that the quote in a post of yours being "The civil war stops when aggrieved, sore losers stop belly-aching" was copy of a quote made by a remain supporter on this forum.

Thefore Day6 would you please explain why a remain supporter would threaten civil war on other remain supporters? ?

Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 22:25:38

Looks very much like he'd sell his soul to get into Number 10.

Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 22:19:33

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTXpaKfbSlc

Corbyn's hatred of the EU very obvious here.

The man is a coward without the courage of his anti-EU convictions.

Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 22:14:41

Isn't it just Annie?

I dread to think about the number of splinters in his backside from so much fence-sitting.

Anniebach Sun 22-Sept-19 22:09:22

Corbyn refuses to say he wants leave or remain until after the
general election. So sneaky.

Grandad1943 Sun 22-Sept-19 22:05:34

Urmstongran in regards to your post @21:48 today, Johnson has yet to form a solution to the little matter of the legislation that has been laid down that instructs him that he must find a deal acceptable to Parliament if Britain is to leave the EU on the 31st of October.

That same legislation also prevents Johnson and his cohorts from taking Britain out of the European Union on a no deal basis.

So, Urmstongran let us all witness how Johnson handles the above problems and then see how the then inevitable General Election turns out.

However, I feel there will be an "awful amount of water to flow under the bridge before that Election is held."

newnanny Sun 22-Sept-19 22:05:16

My dd went to an independent school. She won a full fee scholarship. I could not have afforded to pay her fees at £13k per term 19 years ago. I would not have been pleased if she was not allowed to go to University.

Quite a few Labour party MP's send their children to independent schools eg Diane Abbott

Anniebach Sun 22-Sept-19 22:00:45

Scottish Labour and The Labour Welsh Government want to remain ,

GagaJo Sun 22-Sept-19 21:59:22

Urmstongran, still sounding a HELL of a lot better than the current clown in power.

The anti Labourites would have a point if their current idiot-in-chief wasn't fiddling while the UK gets ready to burn.

Give me Corbyn anyday. The Tories are too busy shifting their money out of the UK pre-Brexit to govern.

newnanny Sun 22-Sept-19 21:57:57

I forgot the 4 day week.

Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 21:57:00

To remind you of a previous post you made in this forum on the 29/08/19 @13:38:-
Day6 Quote [ The civil war stops when aggrieved, sore losers stop belly-aching.] End quote.

Grandad....my "civil war" in reply to a Remainers description of guess what..."civil war" {hmm] should have been in inverted commas, maybe, but I was directly quoting a Remainer. Don't you get it?

You are (deliberately) quoting me out of context I am afraid.

You do it at every opportunity when it was not I who for one minute imagined a civil war in the UK. A Remainer did though. My reply makes sense.

You might have looked to see what went before, perhaps, given I have pointed out your error several times now?

Carry on, if that's your game Grandad, but you are making yourself look rather silly.

newnanny Sun 22-Sept-19 21:53:33

@Day6 do not forget their looney left promises for next manifesto

Axing private schools - not just taking their charitable tax status away but taking them back into public ownership.

Flexible working for menopausal women - this would cripple business.

Nationalising all utilities and post office - forcing shareholders to sell at below market prices.

Forcing btl LL allow private tenants to buy their houses at below market rates.

Extra taxes on people with gardens.

Agreeing a Remainer Brexit deal with EU then campaigning against it in another referendum - even EU don't like that one.

This is just what we heard about goodness knows what else they are plotting.

The maximum amount a person can gift to their child in a lifetime £125k - anything extra to have 50% tax slapped on.

I struggle to understand why any normal person without Marxist tendencies would vote for this left wing rabble.

They will get short shrift if they come to my door canvassing.

Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 21:51:23

hysterical, ridiculous and dangerous REMAIN supporter - what a lovely calm gentle empathetic LEAVE supporter you are

Jura - what a confused Remain supporter you are. confused

You too are quoting Grandad's words, not mine!!!!. grin grin Go and look. What's the matter with you both? grin

Anyone thinking we are in the middle of a civil war is 'hysterical' I am afraid. You might be frothing at the mouth but that is unfortunately the default position of some Remainers. (I know many now who like most of us just want us out of the EU on the 31st Oct so we can move on)

Urmstongran Sun 22-Sept-19 21:48:43

With all the pressure on Boris and his team from the Supreme Court they must have been praying for a diversion - anything for a reprieve - and true to form Labour hand them what they needed on a plate!

The Tories must feel they have to do nothing as it all falls into their laps gifted by the party of self-sabotage.

What they did to Watson on the eve of the conference at the time of the biggest crisis in a lifetime beggars belief.

Labour are a group of idiotic failures.

Oh well, it helps Boris I suppose. He’s well ahead in the polls I see.

Grandad1943 Sun 22-Sept-19 21:43:16

Day6 there can be little chance of any further ballot in regard to Brexit being held in a considered peaceful manner while persons such as yourself you hold the views that you do.

To remind you of a previous post you made in this forum on the 29/08/19 @13:38:-
Day6 Quote [ The civil war stops when aggrieved, sore losers stop belly-aching.] End quote.

quizqueen Sun 22-Sept-19 21:37:48

If Labour want to abolish private schools then why not private housing as well. Then we can all live in bog standard council housing with red front doors and have no interest in striving to improve ourselves! That's Labour for you except for the eminent leaders, of course,they can have nice housing.

Grandad1943 Sun 22-Sept-19 21:32:15

Day6 Quote [Did they not mention planting lots of money trees too, to pay for all this? ] End Quote.

Day6 the Theresa May Tory government planted the first and ultimate size money tree to buy the support of the of Northern Ireland DUP party following her failed attempt to "wipe out" the Labour Party in the 2017 General election.

However, austerity was to continue to prevail for all the rest of us who reside in this country regardless of the hardship caused to so many.

However, Boris (The Buffoon) Johnson hopes all will now forget the above as he now shakes any number of "magic money trees" in a huge uncosted spending program if anyone is foolish enough to trust anything of what he states.

Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 21:28:32

The present would policy would allow a second referendum to be conducted in as calm a public atmosphere as possible

What total bull.

"A second referendum in as calm an atmosphere as possible" - hilarious! Yeah, that's likely to be the case. No one would bat an eyelid, would they, that the result of the first was being ignored.

Talk about Labour ripping to shreds the fabric of democracy!

When would we have the third, then the fourth, until the result suited Labour?

jura2 Sun 22-Sept-19 21:25:48

hysterical, ridiculous and dangerous REMAIN supporter - what a lovely calm gentle empathetic LEAVE supporter you are, DAY6 - with your head firmly stuck in ...

the sand.

Day6 Sun 22-Sept-19 21:21:07

*rabid leave supporters within this country and on this forum now going to the ridiculous and dangerous heights of calling for a civil war to gain what they wish, Day6.

Oh dear Grandad. I have pointed out to you that an hysterical REMAIN supporter, not me, decided the UK was already in the middle of a 'civil war'.

My mention of it was in a quote - quoting this "ridiculous and dangerous" (your words) Remain supporter.

I dare say I'll have to remind you of this again at some juncture, because you keep bringing it up, despite my reminding you that you have got it wrong. You are accusing me falsely.

Stop looking inept and go and lecture the hysterical Remain supporter who feels the UK is in the midst of a civil war, why don't you?

Anniebach Sun 22-Sept-19 21:19:47

McClusky said today anyone in the shadow cabinet supporting remain should stand down , Emily Thornberry,!

Posters do not need to be told ‘to think and consider ‘
grandad43, unlike the momentum/ McClusky party members we have freedom of speech within GN rules not
Union rules