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Urmstongran Mon 23-Sept-19 09:04:38

The website set up to help holiday makers is actually really professional, informative and easy to use. Most people will be able to travel back home free of charge with only a few hours difference to their original return flight time.

Here: thomascook.caa.co.uk/

But what’s the plan for the 9000 workers who won't get paid next Monday?

Universal Credit?

Uber driver or Deliveroo?

gillybob Mon 23-Sept-19 13:15:50

Empathy goes to the job losses, not the holidaymakers who can still go on holiday !! There are other companies ??

How can my family (and probably plenty like them) who have scrimped and saved for years for a little one week holiday in the sun, taken rare time off work together etc. simply book another holiday EllanVannin?

There is the "slight problem" of being short of around £3000 (the cost for a family of 5) which they will undoubtedly wait months to get back .

Thank you Jabberwok I have just spoken to my son who says the children are devastated All their lovely little bits and pieces they have been saving for their holiday all wasted.

and before anyone jumps down my throat....of course I feel terribly sorry for those who will have lost their jobs.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 23-Sept-19 13:13:51

Jobs first as well

EllanVannin Mon 23-Sept-19 13:06:40

Germany are still flying TC as usual, thinking of the customers first ?

Jabberwok Mon 23-Sept-19 13:05:40

Well gillybob, I'm sorry for your family losing their holiday. After saving, preparing, and so looking forward to going on what is clearly a rare event, it must be a bitter disappointment indeed to have it all go up in smoke!
Brexit is now nothing to do with how people voted ! but everything to do with inept, duplicitous, lying, cheating politicians, not one of which had a flying fig what to do or how to do it! They, MP's are the people to blame for allowing the possibility of a negative vote without the first idea of how to handle it. Even after three years, of screaming and shrieking at each other, they now need yet more time, to do?!!! Dear god, you couldn't make it up!! Lions led by Donkeys has never been more appropriate!

EllanVannin Mon 23-Sept-19 13:05:29

I know a couple who'll lose their jobs and when two in the family work for the same company, it spells disaster.

EllanVannin Mon 23-Sept-19 13:03:33

Empathy goes to the job losses, not the holidaymakers who can still go on holiday !! There are other companies ??

Doodle Mon 23-Sept-19 12:43:54

I too feel very sorry for those who have lost their jobs. The shock and worry is awful. I hope they get some short term help and funding for their day to day expenses.
I also feel sorry for those whose trips are cancelled. Many will be able to re book something else and not be a problem but there will be many others like gillybob’s family who have no chance of that. Yes I know it’s only a holiday but some people’s lives are stressful or they have real need of a break (I’m not talking about the ones who go away every year) and the loss of that short period for a rest can have longer term impact for them.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 23-Sept-19 12:06:41

crystaltipps totally agree with your post.

The workforce will not have the comfort of millions in the bank like the CEOs.

crystaltipps Mon 23-Sept-19 12:02:11

Of course we are sorry for anyone who looses a much looked forward to holiday, but I’m saying long term it’s much worse for the employees. I’m listening to LBC and there’s been loads of interviews with holidaymakers but not a single one with a TC worker.

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 11:59:10

3,000 of the jobs are in Greater Manchester. The local news has had loads on it.

As for squabbling about whether to feel more sorry for those who have lost their jobs or their holidays … I wasn't aware that a capacity for empathy was limited.

gillybob Mon 23-Sept-19 11:53:20

That's not entirely true crystaltips our local radio news has been concentrating on those who will have lost their jobs.

crystaltipps Mon 23-Sept-19 11:50:48

I agree people can get over a lost holiday but if you aren’t going to get paid next week and have suddenly lost your job it’s far worse. Why are all the news broadcasts concentrating on people who aren’t going on holiday but will get their money back, but the staff who don’t know where their next mortgage payment is coming from hardly get a mention.

gillybob Mon 23-Sept-19 11:48:51

My DS and DDiL have saved for this little holiday for many years EllenVannin plus myself and the other gran have helped out too. They didn't just pull the money from their savings ! Okay so they may get the money back eventually but now they have a very rare week off work together, no holiday and no money to book anything else.

EllanVannin Mon 23-Sept-19 11:46:13

Watch airline prices rise now ! Easyjet shares have shot up !

gillybob Mon 23-Sept-19 11:43:32

Well I feel sad for my DS, DDiL and their 3 children who were looking forward to a much needed holiday at half term. I have been buying little bits n' bobs for them over the last few months little bikinis, shorts, Tee shirts and pretty dresses. All completely wasted . I feel sad that my DS and DDiL rarely ever get to spend holiday times together at all as they each only get 4 weeks leave per year and so almost always have to take them separately .

No chance of a holiday together now as it looks like it will take months to get refunds (that's assuming there will be refunds at all) and no money to pay for something else in the mean time. angry and sad

sunseeker Mon 23-Sept-19 11:40:16

There was a phone in on local radio this morning. One man stated he will lose £4,000. He booked his flights and accommodation independently. Flying out with one airline and back with Thomas Cook. As he has not yet left the country his travel insurance does not cover him for the cancelled flight and as he booked independently is not ATOL protected. Rebooking the return flight with another airline would be too expensive so he and his family will not be travelling.

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 11:31:53

It's not either/or. It's terrible that so many people have lost their jobs, but there are also those who have scrimped and saved for a holiday. Those who booked flights only won't get their money back.

I don't think much of your heartless post EllanVannin.

ALANaV Mon 23-Sept-19 11:29:12

In the UK taking some cash from my French Bank with the debit card ……..you would no believe what the UK bank changed the currency at …...so yes, currency has fallen ...but worse than that the EHIC may no longer be valid for travel to the EU which will mean an enormous hike in insurance ..the green card may no longer be valid and you will have to apply for an international driving permit …...not sure if you will need a Visa as no one (surprise surprise) has said ….anyone remember the 'good old days' when you were only allowed to take £50 out of the UK ….we went on a two week honeymoon with just £100 cash ….we survived !

EllanVannin Mon 23-Sept-19 11:27:47

FGS, thousands have lost jobs and there are those " will we get our money back " whingers. You must have had it in the first place to enable you to pay for a holiday without using/losing the last few bob you have left. Cor ! Just wait !

Why didn't the lotto chip in with their millions ? Enough people play it to have joined forces if they're that desperate for a holiday. How much are the two rollovers this week ??

Whitewavemark2 Mon 23-Sept-19 11:18:08

Thomas Cook passengers won't be out of pocket because from the EU Package Travel Directive (2015/2302/EU) protects European travellers for cancellation, repatriation and refunds. It's the kind of 'red tape' Johnson wants to get rid of. #ATOL

annette18 Mon 23-Sept-19 11:16:58

Still wasting money last my sister on 21.45 to Dalaman checked in then put in airport hotel with 17.30 flight today.Board in hotel this morning telling them to go home

Ellpammar19 Mon 23-Sept-19 11:15:52

If the younger generation are serious about climate change,
they will need to sacrifice flying as much.

Pantglas2 Mon 23-Sept-19 11:07:20

Anyone losing their job has a right to vent fury, the rest are clearly using it for their own devices - in my opinion, of course.

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 10:59:47

Thomas Cook has been in trouble for about ten(?) years when it merged and took on a billion pound debt.

MaizieD Mon 23-Sept-19 10:55:22

It’s the crowing about it and using someone else’s misery to make biased political points on this particular post that sticks in my craw.

It's not crowing, Pantglas, it's fury.