Labour’s Social Care plan

I've often wished we lived in Scotland mcem - I see much about your politics that I wish I saw in England.

yes Labour will

Improving the quality of social care is a vital part of providing dignity in older age and independence and support for people who are vulnerable or have a disability or a mental health condition.

labour.org.uk/issues/

The BBC says it's only for those over 65.

If they increase our employment costs any further I absolutely will call it a day. I know the LP think anyone in business, large or small must be a fat cat "coining it in". How wrong could they be. Like many other small businesses my DH and I earn far less per hour than our employees.

As gallusquine said up thread, this is well-established in Scotland along with increased building of social housing. Before anyone jumps in with comments about Scotland being subsidised by RUK, I would also point out that increases in income tax for higher earners came in some time ago.
That's what happens when you have a left-of-centre government which, despite accusations to the contrary, is not a one trick pony!

I wonder if this will only apply to the elderly, and am wondering about the many disabled people who are not. I mention this because our daughter had to change her GP, as being bed-bound she could not get to the surgery to see a doctor, but was told she was too young to qualify for housecalls. Fortunately she now has some mobility with a wheelchair, but still needs carers.

Are they proposing more government funding for apprenticeships? How are they going ensure that the new apprenticeships offer quality training rather than the tick box exercise some of them are?

I'm waiting for the rest.

Set up a new national investment bank for infrastructure

Double the amount of apprenticeships

I think you will find there are a lot more polices along those lines

How about forcing councils to build more council houses, raising the Local Housing Allowance in line with real rents, raising Universal Credit in line with inflation, supporting remaining in the EU, so that it's more difficult to dodge taxes, stopping tax relief at higher rates on pension contributions, investing in proper apprenticeships, having a coherent industrial strategy? (for starters)

Abolishing tuition fees is nutty and unfair to those who have already paid, but I've been there before with that one.

I'm sure they're wonderful patriots EllanVannin. Go for it!

A few more good things.

Abolish Tory NHS Act 2012
Halt NHS STP plans including 22 bn cuts

Appoint a new minister for mental health

6 bn for NHS per annum
I.5 bn for social care per annum
Restore nurses training bursaries
£500 more p.a for unpaid carers
Set up National Care Service for the elderly

Free child care for 2 to 4 year olds
Halt sure start closures

£3 bn education funding
£250 million children's health fund

Free school meals

Abolish tuition fees
Free at the point of use life long learning

New childhood obesity strategy

100,000 p.a council/association houses

Scrap bedroom tax

£30 extra per week for ESA
Bring back housing benefit for 18 to 21 year olds
Scrap sanctions regime WCA and Pip essesments

I expect that the same argument was used against the introduction of the NHS

So robbing the workers means that employers will have to finish up staff in order to fund an increase in tax and insurance and so it goes on.

Growstuff, the wealthiest, if they've got any sense, will leave this country behind. I'm going to drill it into my GGC that whatever they do----get out of this country if they want to get on in life.

But EllanVanin the wealthiest would stand to gain the most.

Of course "robbing the rich" is how Labour operates - as opposed to robbing and exploiting the poor. That's the whole reason Labour exists.

These are the options which have been mentioned as a way of funding free social care:

1 Increasing Income Tax by 1%
2 Increasing National Insurance for both employees and employers by 0.5%
3 Charging National Insurance to the working population over the age of 65
4 Introducing an age-related levy of 0.7% to the working population aged 40 and over
5 Introducing a one-off payment at age 65
6 Increasing Inheritance Tax by 2%
7 Increasing Council Tax by 3%
8 Increasing Corporation Tax by 1%
9 Increasing business rates by 3%

BTW Accommodation costs in a home would not be funded.

They will tax the workers out of existence. This is how Labour operate by robbing the rich, etc etc. Would they give up their second,3rd homes ? No chance !
Money where mouth is.

It's a daft idea, designed to win votes. It won't benefit the poor and could make it even more difficult to find care.

The only people who will gain will be the children of those with assets.

WWMK2
A lot of the Labours new policies are very familiar to me because they have long been implemented by the Scottish Government. Most were rejected / shouted down by a Labour at the time, glad to see Labour catching up.

I believe the labour manifesto is fully costed. And I for one would be happy to pay more tax for a fairer and more secure world for my DGC to grow up in.

cheese ?

Money will be saved by keeping people in their own homes rather than being in hospital. Care of elderly people who don't really need to be in hospital is a huge expense for the NHS.
People deserve to be treated with compassion and respect at all stages of life. Can we not just cough up a few pennies each to make sure that they are?
Or are we all so resistant to paying a tiny bit more tax.

We have been waiting and waiting for something like this ever since the Dilnot report, whose recommendations were broadly accepted then kicked into the long grass. I like the proposal restoring the budget to local councils and encouraging more in-house provision rather than costly outsourcing to profit-making 'suppliers'.
Of course this and the other good ideas just announced would require an increase in taxation, but this has been long overdue anyway. I'm not a Labour party supporter and only know what is in today's papers, but I like what I read and not just about social care.

eazybee Quote [Wonderful!
Where is the money coming from?] End Quote?

eazybee, the Labour Party will shake the same magic money tree that the Tories did in buying DUP support to prop up their failed government.

The present chancellor is also about to shake that same money tree in his stated but uncosted spending spree in the hope of winning the next general election.