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Where will they all go and live ???

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jura2 Mon 23-Sept-19 19:39:18

So, it has been made clear now, that health provisions for the 100s of 1000s of UK citizens, mainly retirees, in the EU- will be covered for 6 months only. Then stop - in case of No Deal.

So many, and that means 1000s - will have no choice but to come back, without being able to sell their home abroad, having spent all their savings on the project. Where will they be housed- which GP practices will be able to absorb them back - how will they be funded?

Just waiting for someone to say it is NOT Brexit related ...

Pantglas2 Mon 23-Sept-19 19:45:39

Of course it is Brexit related jura2 as is the rush from migrants daily risking their lives crossing the channel to get to Britain. So the questions can just as well be asked, where will they be housed etc. but anyone asking about them is accused of being racist!

mcem Mon 23-Sept-19 19:46:22

If you refer to my thread about brexit jeopardizing my daughter's health, you 'll see that the advice is that they'll all just have to bite the bullet!

crystaltipps Mon 23-Sept-19 19:49:37

Illegal Migrants ( non EU) have been crossing the channel in ferries, under lorries , in back of lorries, overstaying visas etc and in small boats for years . Not sure what that’s got to do with Brexit.

Pantglas2 Mon 23-Sept-19 19:54:55

Because that was the reason some voted to leave according to remainers who then called all leavers racists!

jura2 Mon 23-Sept-19 19:57:07

The thread is about UK citizens having to return - nothing to do with il/legal immigrants.

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 19:59:52

Pantglas Please could you explain why Brexit affects migrants from non-EU countries. They don't have FoM anyway.

jura2 Mon 23-Sept-19 20:02:09

British state pensioners living abroad in the EU who fall sick after a no-deal Brexit will have their healthcare paid for by the UK as a last resort for only up to six months, the UK has announced. Campaigners have called it “a massive let-down”.

The statement – which comes along with clarifications relating to Ehics used in France by holidaymakers, second home owners and newcomers to France – adds a new layer of complexity to an already complicated situation when it comes to OAPs’ healthcare after a no-deal. British Ehics are also currently used by expatriate UK state pensioners on trips to other EU countries apart from the UK.

Campaigners from British in Europe (BiE) said it shows once again that the citizens' rights part of the Brexit deal should be ring-fenced, safeguarding the existing healthcare rights for life.

In a no-deal the current EU S1 health form system, whereby expatriate state pensioners have their healthcare in the EU paid for by the country that pays their pension, would end for holders of British S1s. This would leave people in different situations depending on national healthcare systems and no-deal laws in the countries where they live.

LondonGranny Mon 23-Sept-19 20:02:21

I think it's wrong to say everyone who voted Leave is racist. I know people who voted Leave because they believed it would be better for the NHS, however, it's probably true that all racists voted Leave.

I still haven't forgiven Farage for saying Leave won without a shot being fired days after Jo Cox was shot dead in the street by a Britain First terrorist.

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 20:03:24

Is there a plot or have I really and truly lost it?

What on earth do migrants from non-EU countries have to do with returning emigrants?

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 20:05:14

I also think it's wrong to say everybody who voted to remain thinks everybody who voted to leave is racist. It's almost certainly true that all racists voted to leave but not vice versa.

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 20:05:41

Anyway, what does this have to do with the OP? Seriously?

Pantglas2 Mon 23-Sept-19 20:07:15

People complained about immigrants.
Politicians blamed EU tying their hands.
People complained about EU.
Politicians promised a referendum and abide by result.
People voted leave
Politicians fail to make Brexit work
Expats return to UK to find people moaning about how much it’s all going to cost, who’s going to fund it, what about surgeries, schools etc.

In my opinion, you’re absolutely right jura2, it is all about Brexit.

growstuff Mon 23-Sept-19 20:08:12

Well, that was a useful contribution.

grapefruitpip Mon 23-Sept-19 20:10:08

What on earth has non EU migrants coming to the UK got to do with Brexit?

Unless of course, you believe the Farage poster and so on?

grapefruitpip Mon 23-Sept-19 20:12:14

Some people complained about immigrants.

petra Mon 23-Sept-19 20:12:17

There shouldn't be a problem as to where they are going to live and registering with a GP.
You told us that all the eu nationals will be leaving. As there are more eu nationals in the uk than there are expats in Europe where's the problem?
In 2016 net migration was 336,000. I assume that all these people were housed and registered with a GP.

Pantglas2 Mon 23-Sept-19 20:13:29

It is what drove so many to vote leave..... according to the remainers.

jura2 Mon 23-Sept-19 20:26:05

petra, the point being that many returning will be destitute and unable to buy or rent.

grapefruitpip Mon 23-Sept-19 20:27:08

I do hope they won't be tanned or dark skinned.

quizqueen Mon 23-Sept-19 20:33:34

I expect that the UK will continue to allow anyone who rocks up on our shores to get free treatment by our NHS, so if the same doesn't apply to our citizens who live in Europe then the blame should go to the EU. I'm not a supporter of the EU but they certainly have more sense in this respect. People living abroad will have to take out private health care policies.

jura2 Mon 23-Sept-19 20:35:29

you try and do this when you are over 60 and with pre-existing conditions sad

petra Mon 23-Sept-19 20:40:23

i do hope they won't be tanned or dark skinned
I would imagine that there's a good probability that they will be tanned, coming back from Spain, Portugal, Italy, South of France, Greece.

trisher Mon 23-Sept-19 20:42:02

quizqueen I don't know when you last visited an A&E department. They collect all a patients details and they charge non-residents for treatment.

Joelsnan Mon 23-Sept-19 20:56:21

Most I know of retain a UK address and return to UK for treatment anyway.