Where will they all go and live ???

As Will Self very cleverly put it Not all brexiters are racist but all racists are Brexiters
Daily influx of refugees .....not given to slight exaggeration then pennyrise probable 99 % are sent back or put in detention to send back
Let’s hope our country is never being bombed out of existence and you need to try and get your family to safety or that your country is so poor that there ard no jobs no food for you and all because the stork dropped you down in an area of deprivation and your stork dropped you down in an affluent area
Not fair is it

The 'daily influx of refugees' is tiny! Most illegal immigrants have overstayed work or study visas here. We don't bother checking whether they've gone home. They join the hidden economy and don't use out healthcare or benefits systems of course!

Illegal migration has been going on for years, successive governments have done b*gger all to sort out the people smugglers, the violent gangs, the overstayers etc. ID cards and proper checks would help but our governments have thought it a bit European and a bit expensive so we haven’t bothered. I agree this is unconnected to the OP, but it was brought up earlier in the thread.

successive governments have done b*gger all to sort out the people smugglers, the violent gangs, the overstayers etc

Oh, I don't know, crystaltipps; they've done their best to get rid of the Windrush generation and now they're having a go with non-British EU citizens...

Just reading this makes me sick. I have two friends who both have children with foreign partners. One is being asked to act as guarantor so the partner can come on DSs extended leave to this country (needs access to £60,000) the other has a DS married and wife has proceeds from a property sale in US, but she must keep £60,000 in bank for 3 years to maintain her right to stay here. The idea that we welcome people or even make it easy to get into this country is a complete fallacy.
As for the people living abroad, if I was them I'd be finding some way to register to vote and come back for the next GE and vote Lib Dem.

Pantglas - For migrants read Illegal Immigrants!! Really cross that they are breaking so many laws and we still let them in and house them.

But Maizie the Windrush generation people aren't here illegally. The UK invited them here to solve a problem. They've worked here, paid taxes and had nothing to hide. It seems the government goes after the easy targets, the same as the non-British EU citizens.

No we don't Ngaio. If people are really here illegally, they don't have access to anything. Not all migrants are in the UK illegally. I think you need to look up the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant.

Who are the people who claim there's no racism in the UK?

not given to slight exaggeration then pennyrise probable 99 % are sent back or put in detention to send back

Slight exaggeration there. "In 2018, 44% were returned from the UK to another country (compared with 47% in the previous year)".

Source: YouGovUK

Trisher, if that's true why is the media full of stories of NHS tourists coming to the uk for free treatment, and getting it?

We had a post last week about a couple who live in France but the husband came home to use the NHS when he needed to.

So how many of them are there? A number would be useful.

The biggest group of people who access NHS care illegally are British ex-pats who have been out of the country and use a UK address. Eligibility for NHS care relates to residence not nationality.

As for the media being full of stories, do you really need an answer to that?

In my mind if you abandon your homeland to go and live the high life in another country for 20-30 years, and not contribute anything during that time towards your homeland's economy then do you have a right to complain about it when when the gravy train stops!

If people choose to go and live abroad they are emigrating so should apply for citizenship of their desired place to live and bide by the rules of that country not expect handouts from the country they have left

I don't think we have the infastructure here to allow free travel from all countries let alone returning expats. I see new houses being built everywhere but not new hospitals, schools, doctors surgeries, care services etc to cope with the demand. With thousands of people homeless living in tents, vans and sleeping on the streets we can't even keep up with social housing provision. Sad state this country is in at the moment.

An asylum seeker is a person who is seeking asylum because they are fleeing abuse we cannot even begin to imagine.

They are housed in places you wouldn't allow your pet to stay in. They are given a tiny amount of money in order to survive.

They escape trauma , abuse, their family killed in front of them ( I won't go on) and they are then accused of living the high life in the UK.

There was a recent case of 4 young asylum seekers committing suicide as they found that preferable to what was available.

Where is the basic humanity.

A teenage Eritrean refugee was the fourth from his friendship group to take his own life after arriving in the UK, an inquest hearing has revealed.

"Mulubrhane Medhane Kfleyosus, 19, was found dead on 18 February 2019 in Milton Keynes. It is the fourth death in the space of 16 months among one friendship group of unaccompanied young male Eritrean asylum seekers and refugees"

Expats in Spain and France won't suddenly find no one is going to pay for their healthcare abroad because what would happen the other way round to those Europeans living in the UK? It's tit for tat and surely a reciprocal agreement will be put in place. The EHIC will presumably disappear.

I have just returned to the UK from living in Spain and then France for 20 years …….with an EHIC and French Mutuelle insurance which is virtually compulsory. The French health service has been excellent for us but now that is also having problems financially …...I would not have returned, but my husband died earlier this year so I sold our house and moved back, I was fortunate I could so so. I would also add that on the (very rare) occasion I have been told ;You should go back where you come from'...and when my husband was too ill to care for him at home and our doctor recommened long term hospital care, I was told by a DOCTOR at the hospital ...'take him back to England and pay for his care' if that isn't racist, I don't know what is ! I found a care home in France for which (as in the UK) I paid nearly 4,000 euros a month. I have a lot of health issues that require long term medication and so I am concerned that I may not be able to obtain the medications I require ….so if all of those like me cannot get them it is one way for the UK government to get rid of all of us expensive and superfluous OAP.s ...simples !

There are no reciprocal agreements for asylum seekers and illegal immigrants so that is a completely different case to Jura's original post.

I see quite a few ex pats in my surgery. They may live in France, Spain or wherever but as soon as they need long term treatment or surgery for instance they just fly home and stay with friends or relatives. The same will happen after we leave the EU.

You will be able to access NHS care if you are resident in the UK. Hopefully, what is available to you satisfies your needs.

My mother and stepfather moved to Spain where my stepfather later contracted lung cancer. He was too ill to move back to the UK - property prices would have been prohibitive even if he had been able to. In Spain he received protracted treatment without cost from a country with financial difficulties much greater than our own. The bills for treatment otherwise would have bankrupted them both. We seem to forget that other EU countries have continually given healthcare to over a million of our citizens who moved to live abroad at the time of their lives when their cost to any health service is at its highest. That was one of the benefits that the leave campaign somehow overlooked and for which, along with everything else, they have no plan.

If they're fit enough to travel GrandmaJan. It's possible they could be landed with a hefty bill for emergency care in their country of residence.

Exactly, crazygranny. Apparently, the government does now have a plan. The EHIC will be valid for six months and then the plan is that people will have to fend for themselves.