Johnson must resign

Will Conservatives agree to this:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQSbav9GFfI

The major obstacle to the backstop as proposed by TM is the Ulster Unionist Party who insist that if there was a kind of customs union with the Republic, it would mean that a difference existed between NI and the rest of the Union. What no-one ever mentions - or conveniently forgets - is that 55.8 p the voters of Northern Ireland voted to remain. Northern Ireland is a conundrum which I can't unravel!

Coveney says no serious backstop alternative from UK. Simon Coveney was speaking after meeting the EU's Michel Barnier.

The UK has yet to provide an EU task force with a "serious proposal" on alternatives to the backstop, Ireland's deputy prime minister has said.

Tánaiste Simon Coveney was speaking after meeting the EU's chief negotiator on Brexit, Michel Barnier, in Brussels on Friday.

Mr Coveney said "significant gaps" remain between the two sides.

However, he added that Mr Barnier and his team are "available 24/7 to negotiate to try and get a deal done".

What are the Brexit backstop options?
Ireland 'open to Brexit extension', says Varadkar
Asked about the possibility of the UK being granted an extension to the 31 October Brexit deadline, he said the focus now is on "trying to get a deal, quite frankly".

"From an Irish perspective, we of course think that an extension is preferable to a no-deal. But I think there would have to be good reason behind that to ask for an extension."

Mr Coveney added: "Until there is a serious proposal, which can be the basis of negotiations, then the gaps which are wide at the moment will remain."

He said "time is running out" and that "the onus is on the British prime minister and his team" to put "serious proposals on the table".

'Significant obstacles'

President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has said that he and Mr Barnier are doing all they can to get a Brexit deal, and if they fail it would be Britain's responsibility.

In an interview with German newspaper Augsburger Allgemeine, Mr Juncker said he and Mr Barnier were working intensively for a deal, because it would be a catastrophe for Britain and Europe if Britain left the EU without an organised withdrawal process.

"Our chief negotiator Michel Barnier and I are doing everything possible to get an agreement."

"But if we don't succeed in the end, the responsibility would lie exclusively on the British side," Mr Juncker said.

UK Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay is also in Brussels for talks.

Downing Street said "progress has been made" but there were still "significant obstacles" to reaching



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I don't think they're all "in it for themselves". No doubt some are - and some aren't very honest or nice people (as in any line of business) - but many of these people have had professional careers and could probably earn more money pursuing those careers. What they're paid isn't that much really, compared to people who are paid vast sums of money to do far less responsible - and useful - jobs.

Dominic Grieve says 'pathological liar' Boris Johnson's comments on MP death threats are 'terrifying'

They're all as crafty as a cartload of monkeys and I wouldn't trust any of them. They're in it for themselves, not the people.

If BJ had voted Remain he'd have been ousted by now ! He's waiting for a GE knowing he'll win with a majority.

Lib Dem will do well but Labour at the moment are neither my ass nor my elbow unless Corbyn does a U-turn towards Brexit at the last minute, then he'll win outright.

Word is the fall guy will be the Attorney General, in order to try to protect Cummings.

If I broke the law I'd be a criminal, Mr Johnson broke the law and is therefore a criminal.

There have been dictators who were criminals. So far there never has been a criminal British prime minister.

So my question to you MaizieD is if not BJ then who?

ooops posted to soon.

Meant to add, why can't they see that he is losing them their core labour voters, people who have voted Labour all their lives.

Johnson is a disgrace to the country and his party. We cannot be 'led' by someone of his calibre.

Boris will romp home in a general election and that's why he is not being allowed one

Exactly Urmstongran

At any other time the opposition would be almost guaranteed to win an election but with that lefty lunatic in charge no wonder the LP don't want one. Why can't they see it?

I hope Boris doesn’t resign. The opposition will be hoping he does.

That’s because he’s popular with the general public (look at those polls and weep Jeremy Corbyn) and they’d rather have a GE up against a less popular Tory.

If Boris keeps trying to get us out his popularity will keep rising.

Boris will romp home in a general election and that's why he is not being allowed one.

To be replaced by whom?

It’s clear that the LP don’t want an election.

Gonegirl Remaining is the only way to deal with the Irish border.

PS. Why am I being silly? I think I might have misunderstood your post. I read it out of context because I don't have the time to read all the posts on a thread. Read it again from my perspective.

Boris seems not to have caught up with what has happened. He sounds very out of step with events. When he gets back he has no friends just those who were prepared to use him.

Sorry, I should have made that clearer.

My post was addressed to growstuff.

Gonegirl, I assume your post @08:47 today is addressed to me. However, if you check back on this thread you will find I have not stated in any of my posts that the whole British nation should be "thrown under the bus."

What I did state was that if Johnson wished to save Brexit he would have to throw the DUP and the Northern Irish people "under the bus". The foregoing is somewhat different I feel in wording and concept, I hope you can agree.

As someone who voted remain I always felt that those who voted leave would have answers to such problems as the Irish border issue, but apparently, that is not so, at least on this forum.

growstuff please tell us, what exactly is your suggestion for dealing with the Irish border?

Do you reallythink I can sort out the huge problem of the Irish backstop? Can you?

Someone has to go forward with this and I think Boris Johnson should be allowed to carry on with whatever he has in mind.

I think talking about the whole country being "thrown under a bus" is ridiculous.

Oh don't be so silly growstuff.

I’d like him to be the shortest serving PM in history - I think he’s got another 46 days to go.

Gonegirl Are you seriously suggesting that the whole country should be thrown under a bus because you are bored and haven't even taken the trouble to find out how serious the Irish backstop is? Really?