The slippery slope - dictatorship anyone?

I tell you what Granny - why don't you go and start a separate thread about what a rapper did last week, or about the Bollocks campaign did, or what someone said about a "lying bitch" and we can all post on that?

This is about what we saw last night in the Commons - our PM basically stuck 2 fingers up at Parliament while his colleagues clutched their sides laughing, and Cox sounded like he was auditioning for a part in some Sunday night period drama with all his blustering and over acting that convinced no-one of anything other than he was not fit to be in office. It was utterly shameful, it was divisive and it played to the very worst values in our society. No about of 'whataboutery' will deflect that - Leavers have to own it - they have to own that behaviour and admit that was what they voted for 3 years ago.

I don't think those things happened in parliament did they GG13, nor were the perpetrators MPs from what you say.

I did not see one post on here decrying how wrong it was for the wrapper who won a big music prize last week held up "Boris Johnsons severed head" on stage.

John McDonald's "lynch the bitch" comments about a Conservative Female MP (sorry cannot remember which MP he was referring to)

Bollocks to Brexit as a campaign slogan??

Neither side has got the right to claim the moral high ground!!

So, there are those that state Johnson was justified in his action due to the behaviour of others,

I believe that reasoning was used when the National Socialist Brownshirts began attacking and killing political opponents in 1930s Germany.

The end justifying the means has been a flawed reasoning used by budding tyrants throughout history, and in that it has never ended well for any nation caught up in such a syndrome.

no, delete "a"

delete "as".

I just wish they all got so worked up by some of the other things that need fixing. We are all divided already, you can bet half the viewers loved it all and half didn't, at least we can still say what we feel at present. Sweet reason aint going to work.

On the forum which I watch, because it is entirely a leave voters, you can see they wait for the newspaper and other sources to tell them what to say.

You either think last night stepped over a line or not. Simply that.

Nobody in the H of Cs cares one iota for the electorate. They are only interested in Grandstanding!!!!

We need an election and those who have been calling for one repeatedly over the last 2 years have suddenly realised that they will not win.

Now they are intent to hang on to their seats by hook or by crook which has the effect of paralysis in all government matters.

I have no respect for any of them. It is like Hotel California combined with Ground Hog Day!!!!!

The "pole dancer" thing is desperation on the part of his enemies. It pales to insignificence beside the main picture.

I feel very worried that most of them deliberately scuppered any plan BJ might have had, for their own political ends.

And I don't blame him one little bit for the "language" he used yesterday. He was right.

Oh good..
True to form we have the usual suspect defending the indefensible.

If your only defence is to say “don’t look at this, look at that”

It is no defence at all.

Don’t forget too that Johnson has funding of an American company run by a pole dancer to answer.

That is one issue that isn’t going away very quickly, and could easily be his downfall.

Amagran
You use the word 'traumatised'
trauma is the result of an overwhelming amount of stress that exceeds ones ability to cope
Please don't trivialise the word.

Has anyone seen the video clip of the LibDem conference where they sang Tony Blair can fuck off and die. More LibDem double standards. It's on FB if anyone wants to check.

Too early for an opinion Urmston; or are you desperately racking your brains trying to find a way to defend what has happened?

Please don’t lose sight of the fact amongst all this angst, that this is a deliberate strategy, with Cummings hand all over it.

He is trying to place Johnson on the side of the people and against evil parliament who refuses to carry out the people’s wishes.

Their strategy is DIVIDE AND RULE

So to do so they are willing to put aside any sense of decency, respect and good manners, by using the kind of militaristic rhetoric, which will be easily recalled by the voter.

Parliament must stand firm against such a disastrous strategy.

Parliament can lead the way in allying both remainers and leavers fears by showing that we can unite and reconcile by ensuring that a deal can be struck, which ensures we leave but at the same time safeguards our economy. It is a middle way.

The voter who in effect started this process can close it by endorsing the deal.

I missed a lot of it as our grandson was here but what I saw horrified me. Johnson and his acolytes have obviously decided to go down the Trump route. God help us.

You ladies might notice that a lot of us are reading but passing no comment.

It’s too early yet for heavy political discussion for me.

Maybe later ....
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We should all write to our MP's and demand that Johnson, at the very least, apologises....

Well said, everyone above and thank you.

When Lady Hale read out the judgment of the Supreme Court, I scarcely dared hope that Johnson would resign, but I did think that he might express a smidgen of contrition. I have always thought him deeply flawed, but even so, I was unprepared for the utterly shocking and outrageous display which he unleashed last night. I am not a Tory, but I have always believed that there are amongst them some decent and principle people. I know many of those have been expelled, but sure the rest are not too lily-livered to call him out for the unprincipled and bullying lout that he is. Are they so worried about being expelled themselves? Are they cowed by this bully or are they happy to slide down the slippery slope with him?

Like others above, I feel traumatised by yesterday's proceedings in Parliament and deeply worried for my grandchildren by the serious erosion of honour and principle in politics.

Quite agree... the horrific mud slinging contests are not politics...neither side is showing any respectful regard for the human race... they should all grow up and get on with the brexit which the majority voted for democratically.....pretend argument just for self gratification is showing our mps to all be fickle,selfish people .....( well we have always known that!!!)
Democracy died a long time ago!

The plan was clearly to goad the opposition parties into a vote of no confidence, triggering a GE. 'Go on then, let's have an election, but you daren't dare you? No! Because you're scared. You haven't got the guts.' Cox was yelling across the Chamber. They were like street fighters and as MamaCaz says, had that been in the street, the police would have been called.

It is truly shocking that Jo Swinson has reported to the police a threat to her 5 year old child, but you can see where the vitriol and hatred is coming from and some people don't need winding up by the MPs' behaviour.

I do hope that the decent Tories who put him in No 10 let their displeasure be known, or are they too scared of the monster they've created?

I believe that a great many have been shocked at what was witnessed last evening in the House of Commons. It remains to be seen throughout today just how widespread that shock is among the whole British public.

Many (if not all) working in our offices voted remain due in all probability to the very nature of the industry they are employed in. It will be interesting to hear how they have reacted to last evenings events and the views of their husbands, wives and partners in the same.

It states much that members of our Assignment teams that visit other businesses and individual persons in the course of their work have been under strict instructions for more than two years now to not under any circumstances discuss Brexit while in other company or persons premises.

Such is the danger of this nations divide that such rulings have to be brought in.

Parliament must show restraint but firmness.

Parliament is sovereign.

Parliament is many, Johnson and his supporters are few.

To coin a phrase

All Parliament had to do was agree to Theresa May's hard won deal then none of this would have happened and we'd be getting on with dealing with issues arising.
ALL parties have been so taken up with their own agendas and squabbling between themselves that I could shake the lot of them. It's more like a nursery than nazi Germany.