The slippery slope - dictatorship anyone?

Typo...eleven years.

Barmey which dictatorship did you live under for four months of each year for eleven days.....and why?

Johnson is not a dictator, nor has this country become one, or will become one in the near future.We are shortly to have a GE for a start.

The hysteria surrounding this whole dictatorship thing on GN is laughable.

I don't think it's ever been a straightforward left/right issue. In fact, the Conservative and Labour parties don't represent the same left/right divisions as fifty years ago.

Are Geoffrey Cox and Johnson posters on GN?

Excellent post tickingbird ( whichever way you voted)
I do think many posters have lost sight of the words ‘quiet and rationally’ unfortunately.

Grandad; I've been saying for a while that the pro brexit demonstrators are like the so called football fans that go to matches purely to fight with people afterwards. And Cummings language reminds me of the perpetrator in an abusive relationship that says I love you and it's your fault that I'm beating you up.....

I don’t understand how this Brexit vote has become a left or right issue. In the days when people discussed quietly and rationally how and why they voted in the referendum it was apparent that people of opposite political leanings voted leave and remain. I know people that voted leave and would do so again that are definitely on the left, liberal minded and certainly not old! I also know several right wing types that voted remain. Parliament has behaved disgracefully - all of them by using this issue to further their own aims and both sides will do anything necessary to thwart the other. If BJ was trying to keep us in they’d vote against that too and vice versa. It is truly disgusting from all sudes!!

Media reports are advising that extream right wing Brexit supporters who claim to be allied Johnson are now threatening "riots in the streets" if Britains withdraw from the European Union is not completed on the 31st of October. Apparently, this is being organised via dark web social media sites in the same manner as football disorder is organised by so-called rabid club fans.

To those that have criticised me for making such a comparison in this thread with the German early 1930s scenario, I do not believe that they can deny that the similarities with that German scenario are very much there and growing by the week.

To hold a riot you have to attack something or some people, so again we are witnessing a divergence of activity very similar to early 1930s Germany.

For evil to prevail all it takes is for good people to do nothing, or in the case of Britain at this time deny such a threat exists.

Link to Times newspaper report on the above to be found here:-

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/deliver-brexit-or-face-riots-minister-warns-boris-johnson-m7bqr00x3

Many more reports can be found in regard to the above on various online websites.

Power corrupts and total power corrupts totally....

This is what happens when you elect an insane New Yorker....we know this for a fact.

Well said Barmeyoldbat....

Lemongrove, your post Thursday about try living with dictatorship, well I have. I have for 4 months of every year for 11 years lived in such a country and believe me Boris is starting to act like one and you really don't want it.

Well it was conservative EFG MPs who stopped TM's deal going through. Don't believe that evil trio's ( Johnson \EFG\DUP) lies. The deal was a pretty good deal which could have been a unifying deal, yes warts were to be seen but it satisfied 85% of all sides except for that evil anti-democratic trio. So it is silly to blame those other than the trio for us still being firmly in the EU.

I agree WWmk2 but A deal that could unite both moderate leavers and remainers surely must seem the most obvious and optimistic way forward hasn’t happened in 3 very long years.

It’s hard to be optimistic.

Where on earth do people get that type of totally false information ??? despair.

Thank yougranny I assumed that to be the case

Ministry of Justice Judicial Salaries from 1 April 2019

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/832410/salary-schedule-april-2019.pdf

www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/the-judiciary-the-government-and-the-constitution/jud-acc-ind/jud-appts/

Doesn't seem as though the Judges are paid from EU money after all!

ug that post is doom and gloomy.

Lift your sights and look at what is possible.

A deal that could unite both moderate leavers and remainers surely must seem the most obvious and optimistic way forward.

So unless we begin to leave behind the type of rhetoric we’ve used and heard lately we can never achieve a unity throughout the country.

Well Elegran 17.4 million voted Leave + 16.6 million voted Remain = 34 million.

So that leaves 16 million who couldn’t be arsed to vote.

If they couldn’t be bothered, I’m not interested in them.

That leaves Brexit waiting to be delivered. In my book.

But Amagran surely you must agree that taking No Deal off the able greatly hampers the U.K. team of negotiators? It ties their hands. I think actually that’s why Remainers like it as they hope it may lead to No Brexit At All.

And we all know MP’s are not up for backing a deal. They will find fault. Safe now in the knowledge that we can’t leave (as No Deal) has been removed!

Groundhog Day. Again.

The EU will offer an extension, e en though their patience is wearing thin. They won’t want to be seen as ‘the bad guys’.

amagran. I would take issue that “most people want either a deal or no Brexit”

I think in fact the vast majority want a deal or no Brexit.

That is why I would hope that there is a possibility that there is room somewhere in the middle where the majority could meet and agree .

Only a very small minority believe that a no deal is a good thing.

I will say it again: minority policy refers to leaving the EU without a deal. Most people want either a deal or no Brexit. This is why the Commons voted to prevent a no-deal Brexit.

The 17.4 million were a minority of the 50plus million electorate.

I too am dismayed but 'minority policy' do you mean the Brexit vote? If so , it was a majority? If the MPs had honoured their constituents wishes we wouldn't be in this mess would we?

Claiming that British Supreme Court judges are paid ANYTHING by the EU is pretty unlikely - why should they pay our wages bills?

Where did that fake news come from?

The only connection between Judges and £175,000 that I can find online is a Daily Mail article about Judge Hodge saying as he stepped down that sweeping tax cuts since 2011 leaves top judges with only £175,000.