The slippery slope - dictatorship anyone?

humpty
There are more male MPs and more in cabinet or senior opposition positions.

Amagram ."..a minority policy?" What do you mean?

jura2
, I am sick and tired of your being sick and tired- with never ever giving any valid argument for any benefits that Brexit with No Deal will bring, and not a single proposal for solutions. Never, not once

I am sure the majority of Leavers who still contribute to this site are sadly sick and tired of being accused of not giving any valid arguments. I will tell you why we have stopped responding to these claims, it is because for more than two years leave posters have given evidence based reasoning for their leave decision and this has been totally ignored by remainers as it might shatter their ideals of remaining i.e. visa free travel to their holiday homes and exchange opportunities for their middle class grandchildren.
Most good, honest leave posters have either left the site or read without respond ing because the same five or six hard line remainers cannot debate and resort to personal attack.
There are two or three leave voters who try to continue a rational debate and ignore the abuse, but refuse to go over and over their reasons for voting leave knowing it falls on closed biased ears.

absthane I would not bring a deceased friend into political debate.

Are you aware that the ruling was made on a law passed the previous day BY the Supreme Court.
Boris could never win.
What do you think he had planned during those 5 weeks - twiddle his thumbs??? No not likely.
Labour and Lib Dem have had their conferences, Conservative party won’t have theirs now. The suspension of parliament happens every year for conference season.

Sorry Joelsnan, I take your point. However, you also suggested that more male than female MPs had had similar problems. Do you know whether this is true in terms of proprtions, because of course there are far more male MPs to be targetted?

Day6- just look at the difference between a Remain march and a Leaver march - just the same on t'internet.

There is a huge difference now:

'"There has always been violence levelled at Members of Parliament. What is new that it is part now of the political strategy to incite fear and loathing, and people versus Parliament, and he is doing it on purpose."'

It is deliberate and part of the official Johnson policy now- with Cummings writing all over.

humpty
The Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle said on Thursday evening he had been attacked by a man in his Brighton Kemptown constituency who said MPs were traitors

Russell-Moyle said the man then “tried to assault me, grabbed and bent my glasses, and for a moment I thought he was going to hit me”, before three men pulled the assailant away. The MP accused May of having “whipped up fear and division” with her speech

yes, full of vitriol and hate, and terrible threats

No, not at all Jura

Which sites are YOU reading? I do not associate with anyone full of hate who makes threats, nor do the Leavers I know.

You'd like it to be that way, but sadly, for you, millions of ordinary, hard-working, caring and concerned people voted to LEAVE the EU, whether you like it or not.

I am reading about anger directed at our stalling, game-playing parliament, intent on destroying democracy by fair means or foul - with the aid of an unelected, wealthy woman.

One wonders when Gina Miller will net pay for courts to overturn parliamentary decisions she doesn't like?

Not only that, Boris has challenged parliament to get rid of him via a general election. They won't, because too many MPs will lose their seats.

Parliament is a cowardly, selfish shambles and millions and millions of people are fed up and angry.

In terms of vitriol and abuse, Leavers have had that for three years from Remainers. Fact.

Comments made about JRM's children are totally wrong. It is however a pity that JRM has chosen to regularly take his oldest son with him when being Politically active. But I agree Joelsnan re children. A very serious threat, not just 'mocking' (and mocking is bad) was recently made to Jo Swinson's child, and also Anna Soubry's. And yes, women have been particularly attacked adn threatened by Far Right activists- including rape. And it is disgusting and despicable, wherever it comes from- and it can never be an excuse to reply 'oh but others have done it too'

Now, have I got this right. This afternoon, in the House of Commons- Boris stated he would adhere by the Law, and also said that he would NOT write a letter to ask for extension, as per the Law- then walked out, against the Speaker's request, before O'Donell could challenge this.

Wow- we are now beyond the beyond - his position is surely untenable.

Ilovecheese
www.bradford.ac.uk/news/archive/2018/almost-a-third-of-uk-mps-experience-online-abuse-and-threats.php

Brexit is not a minority policy and by taking no deal off the table why should the EU give us a good deal! The fundamental point of bargaining is to have a strong position to bargain from.

This behaviour has been planned by Johnson and Cummings all along. Johnson has been taught by Eton on how to win an argument through bully boy tactics, name calling, insults and lies. We saw this during the Referendum and his ploy to win the PM job. Like Hitler someone voted him into power, so what were they hoping to gain by it? Johnson's downright disregard for this country, its queen, people and parliament is all too obvious. Part of his elaborate scheme to get a general election only because HE wants to win and get Briexit done by 31st October regardless of how it is going to effect the Country. Johnston does not care about Brexit, he doesn't care about your or mine needs he only cares about his needs and all he wants is to the hero of the day just like Winston Churchill and 'save the country'.
The saying you should be careful what you wish for comes to mind over and over again. People did vote for Brexit but I am sure not this mess. Those of us who voted to remain saw the writing on the wall and didn't believe Johnson and his mob.
How the Tory MPs and all the cabinet that are left can still support this situation is beyond my comprehension.
I live in the hope that someone will come to their senses and get this idiot and his 'friends' out of our parliament once and for all and get us back to some sort of normallity so we can live happier lives like in the pre-Brexit days.

humpty
Do a quick search. Twitter is rife with disgusting threats and abuse. What about JRM’s children (dont particularly like him but...).
It certainly is not an exclusively female issue.

Joelsnan Can I also ask you to give more information about which male MPs have been threatened or abused. How did you come by this information? Do you have statistics to back up your assertion or did you just make this up?

Joelsnan what have mass killers got to do with it? He targeted Jo Cox and murdered her! He did not run amok killing random people.

growstuff
Aren’t most of the mass killers loners with no particular political affiliation. They tend to focus on one thing that annoys them to the point of obsession and feel the impulsion to deal with it.
As Batley and Spen has a higher than average muslim population his grievance was with JC’s perceived favour of this sector of the town to the detriment of the locals. Irrational, yes, but others within that community had similar thoughts, and, for someone with limited educational attainment and mental health issues, he obviously thought he was doing good for the locals.

Joelsnan, can you clarify, can you name any male MPs whi have been threatened or abused? and how do you know how many there are, compared with women MPs?

jura2
It is not just women MPs that are receiving abuse and in some cases death threats, men probably receive more.but none of them are standing up, reading from a prepared text. Why do women cry equality then revert to the poor me when they want effect. What strategies are the male MPs using for them to deal with the ongoing abuse without resorting to these female tactics.
It was apparent that the MP was not responding to his current comments, but had her own agenda which appeared to be to single out BJ for humiliation whilst omitting the many other MPs from both sides whose language has been far worse.
I am no BJ fan, but this lady was out of order, especially using Jo Cox.

Dunno about the Remainer majority. Seems like it's AGM time for the loonytune brigade.

Yeah yeah Joelsnan A guy who just happened to have a collection of far right reading material and sent money to a far right organisation.

Maybe it's true that all far right believers have mental problems.

I heard this on the radio just now

Rachel Johnson suggested on #WATO that her brother Boris, might be under pressure from those forces seeking to make £billions from shorting the pound, as an explanation for his demagoguery and incendiary rhetoric ?

Joelsnan - yes like so many in the Far Right.

Jo Cox was mentionned because the reported threats of death, rape, on women MPs were ignored. And because of the type of language used which is 'picked up' as appropriate and acceptable, be it racist, mysoginist, or whatever - by the Far Right - and led to Jo Cox's death.

If you can't see that, then I don't know. so, you are sick and tired, hey. How do you think we feel - especially as we have carefully studied the dreadful consequences that No Deal would bring to the weakest and most vulnerable in society. TBH, I am sick and tired of your being sick and tired- with never ever giving any valid argument for any benefits that Brexit with No Deal will bring, and not a single proposal for solutions. Never, not once.

Well, I hold your view Day6! You're right, not many leavers bother to post on here now for obvious reasons!! There was much vitriol on both sides of the House but only one side is causing indignation on here! Why indeed was Jo Cox brought up at all? To perpetrate further outrage?! BJ's answer was probably tactless bearing in mind that she was a remainer, but outrageous?! I don't think so! Ordinary people in the street are very angry that MP's have deliberately dragged this saga on and on for three+ long weary years, with no discernable end in sight! In plain language we are sick and tired of the endlessness of it, now probably droning on into flaming January! Please NO! We voted to leave the EU, FGS can we not get on do just that!

The killer of Jo Cox was not Far Right, he is a guy with learning difficulties and a known loner.