Labour policy - no immigration caps, open borders and free movement.

The enemy within. No wonder he has sat on the fence for three years.

Star bird - England doesn’t have large numbers who have never seen the countryside or seen a cow.

starbird

England isn't the most densely populated country in Europe or the EU.

inews.co.uk/opinion/i-mapped-population-density-across-europe-britain-isnt-crowded-think-514403

Anarchy and a socialist controlled economy are not even compatible.

Most of the motions passed in the last week have not had the labour leadership or MPs present as they will have been in the HoC. Interesting to see what ends up in their manifesto. Ditto the Tory conference coming up. Expect lots of promised “giveaways”

That is so much emotive crap that you express in the opening of the thread.

If you are so committed to this government and its objective of “free trade” and assuming that you have the slightest degree of knowledge of economics and free trade, you would be totally aware that free trade by definition means that there will be free movement of capital, goods, services and labour. Restrictions on any of these means free trade is not possible.

The emotions that you seek to raise by the bayou open the thread is not designed to inform but simply to spread fear and make people anxious. That is appalling and you should be ashamed

Well Impartialandeducated, given I see hard left Momentum as the driving force of the Labour Party, I feel their movement or momentum is designed to ensure Labour goes backwards and becomes the party for anarchists and those into the politics of envy.

If you earn a wage, beware Labour. They'll ensure your tax contributions pay for their crazy schemes and when there isn't enough money to fund them, (surprise, surprise) all the workers will be squeezed a bit more. As mentioned in a previous post elsewhere. low earning EU workers in the UK have their wages made up with benefits they are entitled to claim.

There will be huge amounts of money to fund it all. Borrowing and then the ensuing debt that the government which follows Labour has to sort out. Balancing the books is known as 'austerity' by high-spending Labour governments. Simple economics isn't their forte.

The Diane Abbot school of thought regarding economics powers Labour.

Day6 well said! Momentum is usually a word used for forward or upward movement but I suppose there can be negative momentum as well, often referred to scientifically as "drag"
Seems appropriate for that collection of no-hopers and their deluded supporters !!

Please, please, TerriBull contribute to the political threads with your wonderful witty ( and insightful) posts.

Btw. Not all sailing folk are part of the bourgeoisie. My boat before the one we have now was moored astern of the Queens 'golden' barge. We saw it when she went onboard that day.
I'm a south London girl who didn't even finish school: I just got lucky?

When did we breed such idiots that, even with the free education our country gives them, they are prepared to believe something without ever checking to see if it's true, just because it suits their underlying prejudice?

Do remember bias is the tool of left wingers too Gracesgran and you have been known to smear anyone thinking differently from you with stuff you dredge up from biased left wing press and publications.

If idiot (so charitable, aren't you? ) is the term for those who criticise Labour and your beloved Corbyn, those not sharing your worship of the Marxists eager to destroy the UK, then we'll have to come up with a similar term of endearment. Those looking to see Labour damage and destroy the UK are many, so there must be a collective noun for them?

A Momentum of Marxists maybe?

Anti-establishment will do for now

I feel GN needs all the laughs it can get at the moment, as po faced misery preaching seems to be the in thing

Isn't it just lemon A light-hearted response is always very welcome I think, so thank you Terribull

You haven’t been around here long enough to notice it Impartial but hang around and you will get the full patronising force from some posters.
No doubt they will question you as to your credentials whilst doing so.
Run for the hills.

Lemongrove ref. Your comment at 16.16. Am still laughing now. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!!!

GRACES GRAN You clearly have never paid your council tax or you would realise that the lion's share of that tax goes to providing education. Any attempt even to extend free movement would be abhorrent to the majority of voters especially those that contribute financially to society. Having travelled widely in Europe in recent years, it is clear that there is a long queue of people, mainly men in their late teens and early 20s, waiting for the opportunity. I think it's time to clarify the standpoint of the majority of people in the country....immigration is not a problem per se, but the scale has to be moderated.

Cambridge Analytica was a part of the illegal subversion of our democracy. So no I certainly do not want to be associated with them UG.

I would rather be associated with the majority of UK voters who have wanted to Stop brexit for the last two and a half years.

Urmston we know you want to leave the EU. Many of us Leavers respect the outcome of the referendum. Things are different three years on, we do know more. I can see the EU would benefit from reforms, as part of the EU we have influence, less so outside.
One of the issues I struggle with is I much prefer to be part of Europe than outside it, beholden to an American President the rest of the world is horrified by, as are most of us.

You are getting like that twerp outside Parliament varian .... the one with the loudhailer shouting ‘STOP BREXIT!’.

Are you hoping that be repeating the same two or three sentences over and over, on a loop that you will invade our minds and influence our decision? Haha!

You don’t want to be accused of being Cambridge Analytica on legs!

some people did get a bit confused at the time, hey.
Seems like some still do.

www.facebook.com/BestForBritain/videos/437726110432481/

Vote Lib Dem if you want to Stop Brexit.

It will be interesting to see what goes into a manifesto Iam64. Apparently not all the items passed at the conference are high on the leadership list.

Like you, I would never vote Tory but I will read the other manifestos before I decide.

I’m away, intermittent WiFi. My occasional catch up has me seriously thinking of not bothering,
Ilovecheese, we must live near each other I’m 12 miles from Manchester. Initially I worried this policy would lose labour votes. I’m not convinced it will. There are people who will never vote labour, just as I can never vote Tory.
The £30,000 was set too high - it rules out care workers, young nurses, labourers, builders, etc all people we need. Yes of course we need to train British youngsters but let’s not kid ourselves we don’t need immigrants.
We also do need to build social housing. I disagree with McDonal we shouldn’t sell it, we shouldn’t force private land lords to sell either. We should have fair rents.
Building social housing, improving our infrastructure, rebuilding all our public services, such a familiar need after tears of Tory misrule

Excellent TerriBull! Certainly made me laugh despite my burning painful bits!

Why are so many people, who think they have a view on politics, patronising?

When did we breed such idiots that, even with the free education our country gives them, they are prepared to believe something without ever checking to see if it's true, just because it suits their underlying prejudice?

Claim
Labour pledged to scrap all controls on immigration

Conclusion
Incorrect. Labour passed a motion at its party conference to extend free movement and ruling out certain forms of immigration systems. This doesn’t mean scrapping all immigration controls.

Following the conclusion of the Labour Party conference on Wednesday, the front page of the Telegraph’s Thursday edition reported that the party had agreed a policy to remove all controls on immigration.

This is incorrect, *as the Labour party pointed out*.

Why are so many people, who think they have a view on politics, sheep?

fullfact.org/immigration/labour-immigration-policy/

Very good Terri? I feel GN needs all the laughs it can get at the moment, as po faced misery preaching seems to be the in thing.
As Mc Donnell has said he would give the keys to number 11 to a homeless family if they get into power ( was he drunk when he came up with that one?) then he will only have two other houses to live in.