Labour policy - no immigration caps, open borders and free movement.

If this doesn't inflame the far right I don't know!
Goodness me are they trying to incite civil war...scary!

Unworkable, inpracticable and unrealistic!!!!

I'm thinking that they are NOT trying to win the election. Don't think Corbyn wants to be PM.

More Looney Left ideological policy that won't work practically.

Hopefully JC will never be in No.10 ?

I always thought free movement was a good idea, so no worries about that being continued after Brexit. I would like to see more enforcement of the minimum wage rules, though.
Truth to tell, I'm not that fussed about immigration from outside the EU either. Maybe because I live in Manchester, a large and very diverse city, I am used go seeing lots of different sorts of people and it doesn't bother me.

Also think it was a bit silly to say immigrants must earn a high wage (I think it was £30,000 p.a.), before being allowed to move here, and that figure would have had to be revised downwards because the sort of jobs that need doing are not those that are particularly well paid, particularly at entry level.

Not only does it not bother me, I see it as a massive advantage.

What a great idea.

As far as migrants voting rights, I think if people are living in this country, they have as much of a stake in the running of the country as anyone who was born here.

A criminal is a criminal whatever nationality they are and should face the consequences according to our criminal justice system.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on this.

Truth to tell, I'm not that fussed about immigration from outside the EU either

I have worked and lived in many multicultural cities around the UK. Multiculturalism is a fact of life and it is fine by me and by most people.

However, only a complete, unthinking fool would create an open borders policy - anyone and everyone welcome. Our infrastructure wouldn't cope for a start and why should the taxpayer's life be made more difficult and more of a struggle because of a huge increase in immigration?

Where will Corbyn find the money to support these new arrived people? Who will vet them? Is it OK to not know the background of those who arrive on our shores and walk freely amongst us? Does it matter? It doesn't according to Labour.

Complete madness.

Never mind though. They will all vote for Labour.

We will never get to the top of a NHS hospital waiting list as nurses and doctors will only be working for 4 days each week, and with millions of new people to treat with open immigration, the queues will be endless. All countries need a sensible immigration policy.

The very people who want an open door policy will be the first to complain about not being able to get a doctors appt, not being able to get their first choice school, no affordable housing and the damage over population is having on climate change in the UK.

Day6 you asked for people's thoughts and I gave you mine. Some people see immigration as a good thing, other people see it as not so good.

Just differences of opinion, not unthinking foolishness.

Whilst immigration should not be a problem.
Water is a finite resource, waste disposal is a massive environmental issue as are utilities. Food needs are greater, more animals needed to meet the need. More sewage to dispose of, more cars on the roads, more school places more patients for fewer doctors appointments. More building on green belt. Fewer jobs for more people (especially with the implementation of AI).

@ILovecheese I think the £30k earning policy was to ensure new immigrants do not claim benefits from a system they have not contributed to. My dh has a niece who married a man from Turkey. They have one child but both work full time in Turkey. They would love to come back to UK to live but can't as they have a child they have to show they can earn even more, I think it was £32k. They can only earn about £27k. They have both lived in Turkey for 6 years. He speaks perfect English so language not an issue but they expect they will never be allowed to live together in UK, but his niece says she would rather live in Turkey with her dh than in UK without him. She comes from NE where cost of housing is lower and thinks they could manage on £27k and would agree to not be eligible for benefits but still can't get approval.

We will never get to the top of a NHS hospital waiting list as nurses and doctors will only be working for 4 days each week

Who is the * we*.....the nurses and doctors will be those pesky immigrants.

newnanny what a pity that your niece and her family can't live in whichever country they choose.
I am thinking for instance about fruit or vegetable pickers. No one is going to pay them over £30,000, because the fruit or veg would then cost too much to be a viable crop. There will have to be a different arrangement for those workers if we are to continue to have fruit and veg in the shops, at least until robotics is more advanced.

The same for care workers, another badly paid profession.
That's why I think the level was set unrealistically high.

It'll be ok cos they're going to build 2 million extra council houses and then of course there's number 11, courtesy of the magnanimous John McDonnell, stuff a few more in there, and like all good socialists he's got his second home up in Norfolk, although to be fair it's not that posh but allegedly it's on The Broads cos he likes sailing how damn bourgeoise is that! Oh well he's only human he's got to unwind somewhere. The rest they can requisition from greedy bastard landlords, or anyone who happens to leave properties lying empty. Make sure you sell your mum and dad's place quickly as and when they expire or they'll have their hands on their properties before you can mutter "comrade" under your breath.

I expect Jezza was much inspired by the ethos of East Germany when he went there on his motorbike with Diane riding pillion, completely missing the fact that most were trying to get out, whilst he was trying to get in. He was going to write his own version of the "Motorcycle Diaries" but sadly Che had that covered and anyway Jezza didn't look so good in a beret, so what would be the point

Dictatorship anyone?

terribull?? I bet you had fun writing that bit of fantasy.

I’m sure if you try hard enough you could come up with an argument that makes intelligent sense.

Sometimes I think that we can have a sensible debate about policy, no need to agree, just to debate. Time and time again I am disappointed. Sorry, Day6 it could have been an interesting thread.

Was terribull making the first paragraph up then? I don’t follow party conferences but heard about those things he quotes so who do I believe?

Whitewave thank you! but I don't do "intelligent sense" which is why I don't go on the political threads hardly ever, I just dipped my toe in cautiously. However, I think I'm very good on say the really important stuff like "eyebrows" I made a contribution there today. Those are my people, never underestimate the power of the eyebrow. Roger Moore's for example earnt him squillions, sadly it seems his eyebrows turned him into a filthy capitalist what more can I say!

Could it be any worse than what we have now ?

To look at another area of policy that Labour has been debating this week has been that Britains employed persons work the longest hours per week than any other European member state, but despite that have the lowest productivity output per employee in the same. Therfore, change is obviously required and shorter working hours could well be a solution.

Reducing the employee working hours for the same salary or wage would, at first glance to many, seem to be a very large on cost to business. However, industries such as the Distribution industry have proven that does not need to be the case.

By example to the above, A thirty six hour five day week as worked now can be carried out over four days of nine hours working rather than five days of seven and a quarter hour working.

The above has proven popular among employers and employees in the Transport industry as four days on followed three days off can more easily incorporate flexible working inclusive of weekend shifts in Britains ever growing twenty four hour, seven-day commercial environment.

The above can mean that better wages and salaries can be paid to employees, and the achieved flexibility can reduce childcare costs in families with one parent being at home three days in the working week and then the other parent being at home an alternate three days. The above can also cover parents working at the weekends. In that, one parent is always at home when the children go off to school and come home or when they are at home for the day at least six days per week where both parents work such schedules.

As stated for the employer it can bring forward far greater flexibility which again brings forward reduced overhead costs as those are spread over a greater time scale in trading.

The above is just an example of how greater employee satisfaction can be obtained along with increased productivity from an existing workforce.

To bring about such working environments means "thinking outside the box" in many companies with employees being consulted and involved in the planning stages of such changes.

My own company has in recent months been bringing forward such working routines and schedules which as stated is proving popular with staff who are now working such routines, with more to follow.

I have not had to much time to view the Labour Conference, but I would imagine such working practises as the above have been in the fore of their debate on work, wages and hours.