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Johnson and the Civil Contingencies Act

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GracesGranMK3 Sun 29-Sept-19 04:28:23

Increasingly MPs across the House of Commons believe Downing Street is considering using the Civil Contingencies Act 2004, which grants special powers in the event of a national emergency, as a way to override the so-called Benn act, which mandates the prime minister to seek a delay to Brexit if no deal has been struck with Brussels by 19 October.

While there is any chance that this is what Johnson and the Brexit Bullies in parliament and in the media are trying to do I am off this forum and any other social media where his followers can try and increase the tension. It explains the pseudo anger as far as I am concerned and if silence is the only answer for the time being - so be it.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/28/boris-johnson-invoke-civil-emergency-powers-brexit-deal

absthame Sun 29-Sept-19 15:46:38

I think Growstuff that both are correct.

Firecracker123 Sun 29-Sept-19 15:45:59

Another one brainwashed by the EU.

Dinahmo Sun 29-Sept-19 15:42:19

Urm That's funny - I thought that Benn was shorter than Surrender.

The new catch phrases were introduced last week - "Surrender Act", "What people are Saying" , "the British people want us to move on" and "Get Brexit Done" Most of them used several times this morning in Johnson's interview with Andrew Marr, when he refused to answer the questions but merely repeated the above phrases.

No doubt these will go the same way as "Take back control" and "sovereignty". As most of us know, we've been a sovereign nation for hundreds of years and have always had control over our own laws.

I live in hope that the new catch phrases will soon bite the dust.

Urmstongran Sun 29-Sept-19 15:41:18

Well While there is any chance that this is what Johnson and the Brexit Bullies in parliament and in the media are trying to do I am off this forum and any other social media where his followers can try and increase the tension. It explains the pseudo anger as far as I am concerned and if silence is the only answer for the time being - so be it.

Faux outrage I think here GGmk3

I bet you’ve gone on a cruise with poor internet access and when you return, you’ll have a nice tan and a new name.

Either that, or with all the Brexit postings your ironing has built up to mammoth proportions and you’ve resolved to tackle it!
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growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 15:33:14

Ooops … the Faragist mob (typo)

growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 15:32:48

No, no, no … It's Faragist's mob who see themselves holed up in a bunker, while others start riots grin

jura2 Sun 29-Sept-19 15:32:03

No Joelsnan- marches so far have been calm, in good humour- and 100% in harmony with our Laws. Which 'democracy' are you talking about btw? Mob rule?

growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 15:31:40

Hitler did court the public vote. That's why there are parallels with Germany rather than (say) Russia or China. The Nazis actually gained power through lawful means. By the time most Germans woke up to what was actually happening beneath their noses, it was too late.

Firecracker123 Sun 29-Sept-19 15:30:44

Lordy lordy I shouldn't laugh lol but can't help myself I have a vision of the OP holed up in a bunker somewhere, she's started a riot with her thread and scared herself witless. ?

jura2 Sun 29-Sept-19 15:30:40

Yes he is Urmstongran 'He’s still very popular though ain’t he?'

and that is the seriously worrying thing about what is happening in the UK currently. He would still win an election from prison - they say. So popular with people who have been shouting about getting our Sovereign Laws back - and yet will condone someone who is clearly prepared to by-Pass our Sovereign Parliament, and our Sovereign Parliamentary Democracy- possible again, and against our own Sovereign Law. To get something that will hurt us all, put our country at risk and make us vassals and at the beck and call of Trump and others.

Joelsnan Sun 29-Sept-19 15:29:04

Aren't the anti-brexit marches an incitement to violence?
A show of disregard for democracy.

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 15:28:09

It’s ridiculous to compare Boris to Hitler.

Two 'popular' dictators who sprang to mind, Ug. I'm sure I could find more if required...

growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 15:28:02

It's not ridiculous to compare the political manipulation of parliament with what happened to the Reichstag in 1932/3. There are very striking parallels.

jura2 Sun 29-Sept-19 15:24:52

crystaltips: 'Who are these promised pro Brexit rioters going to be targeting? Anyone foreign? Female MPs? Judges? Chilling.'

you may be aware that 2 large anti-Brexit marches are due to take place in London, on 12th and mainly on 19th. I believe they are trying to scare people from attending, espcially those with families, etc. It would be very 'simple' to get EDL/BF + Brexit Party support to create a dangerous situation. sad

Urmstongran Sun 29-Sept-19 15:22:07

I’d like it to be No Deal or Remain (now).

It’s ridiculous to compare Boris to Hitler. I’m not even going to join in with that one!

ayse Sun 29-Sept-19 15:18:02

Hitler gained his Chancellorship via the electoral process, support from business, aristocracy and much double dealing. He finished it off by getting the Bundestag to cede him executive powers with no recourse to the electorate.

It’s all very worrying to me, to see our society disintegrating under our noses.

Currently, I’d like to see a deal or remain. I believe no deal is a disaster that will overcome us all. I hope I’m wrong.

crystaltipps Sun 29-Sept-19 15:09:04

Plenty of dictators have gained the public vote in elections.

Urmstongran Sun 29-Sept-19 15:03:42

I would indeed MaizieD

Boris is pretty determined to ‘get Brexit done’. It’s crunch time. We were always going to get to this point.

And I don’t know of any dictator who has begged for the public vote as in a general election. Speaks volumes.

Those who don’t want him or his policies won’t vote for him. Can’t say fairer than that.

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 14:43:12

Oh dear, Ug. Hitler and Mussolini were 'popular'... wouldn't you want just a tad more than 'popularity' in the leader of your country?

Urmstongran Sun 29-Sept-19 14:38:55

He’s still very popular though ain’t he?

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 14:38:00

Conveniently forgetting that there is a lot of public anger over the imposition of the probably most appallingly dishonourable PM the UK has ever had and the threat of catastrophic no deal Brexit.

Urmstongran Sun 29-Sept-19 14:36:39

Oh dear, I can’t be the only one who’s thinking GracesGran will probably be back - as mark4

I can’t keep up with these reincarnations!!
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P.s. I’m with Boris. It’s shorter and succinct to call it the Surrender Act. The cap fits.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 29-Sept-19 14:33:52

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@bleicher_joanna
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We've seen through Boris Johnson.

Italian parliament has seen off an attempted fascist takeover.

Donald Trump is on verge of being impeached.

Now Steve Bannon is soon to be subpoenaed.

The world is beginning to see sense.

We are getting there!
Truth & decency will prevail

Whitewavemark2 Sun 29-Sept-19 14:30:42

Johnson and Cummings are letting the genie of violent language and sod you politics out of the bottle.

I hope that it can be put back in once they’ve been got rid of.

varian Sun 29-Sept-19 14:20:57

Cummings has stated publicly that public anger was "not surprising" because of Westminster's "refusal to implement brexit"

In other words he is telling MPs to follow his instructions if they want the death threats to stop.