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Johnson and the Civil Contingencies Act

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growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 09:13:01

Oh! hmm

I don't understand how anybody can be so nihilistic that they want to join a discussion forum with the sole purpose of sneering and trying to intimidate other posters, without making any constructive comments.

I guess it takes all sorts!

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 09:08:48

It's clear that you are fairly new to the forum, growstuff, when you ask a question like that ?

growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 08:53:44

Do you have any constructive comment to make lemongrove?

Labaik Sun 29-Sept-19 08:48:41

There may be division but, thus far we have had marches, rallies etc for 3 years and the only violence I'm aware of has been instigated by pro brexit groups. So, any talk of civil unrest is surely going to come from them. I do think some people should look at the vile language used in some of the pro brexit Facebook pages. I've never in my life been scared to show my political colours in public but I'm tempted to wear my pro EU t shirt for a week just to see how many nasty comments I get, but I'm too afraid to.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 29-Sept-19 08:45:26

lemon that is simply your unfortunate interpretation of the OP.

gg3 sees it as entirely opposite.

She is entitled to her interpretation of the language being chosen by the PM as are you.

But your unfortunate habit of trying to shut debate done merely has the consequence if irritating people and in itself raising the temperature.

Try to be a little less controlling,

Hetty58 Sun 29-Sept-19 08:45:14

Agreed lemongrove and goodbye GracesGran.

lemongrove Sun 29-Sept-19 08:39:23

Iam64 .....it’s the words that were chosen by the OP.
‘I am off this forum and any other social media where his followers can try and increase the tension’
Words matter right? ‘This forum’.. as in any leave poster could be fomenting civil unrest.
If the OP really wanted to leave the forum, she would go quietly and not threaten to flounce off.
No, this is just another thread for remainers to do their level best to prod any leaver they can by the suggestion that they will soon be running riot in the streets.
I don’t know what awful SM sites the OP frequents, but I only use this one and it’s full of posters like me ( many of whom I have met) older women, who love their families and are calm rational people with a sense of humour.We all voted different ways in the referendum but we don’t let that divide us.
I suggest that threads like this are just spreading, not containing division, and are started for that purpose.

Iam64 Sun 29-Sept-19 08:19:48

Why should gg3 be ashamed for starting this thread.

Farage threatens to use a knife, Johnson is considering misusing legislation, again. A soldier was arrested after using foul and abusive language, rape and death threats to Angela Raynor. I had a quick look at a pro Brexit twitter feed but left and won’t return because of the levels of abuse, threats of civil wAr etc. What’s the matter with these people?
We had a studied referendum. Referendum is advisory not legally binding.
Since then we’ve muddled along, none of the major parties emerge as great potential governments. We are in a mess of our own making. We need to find the least worse way forward. We certainly need our elected representatives to stop using inflammatory language
Mr Johnson needs to reign his ego in, sack his psycho advisor and work cooperatively

growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 08:16:36

That well-known leftie hmm, Amber Rudd, seems to think that violence is being incited too:

"The sort of language I'm afraid we've seen more and more of coming out from Number 10 does incite violence.
"It's the sort of language people think legitimises a more aggressive approach and sometimes violence."

As she was once Home Secretary, I would have thought she knows a little bit about violence.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 29-Sept-19 08:14:06

crystal

The words used by Farage and Johnson are chosen carefully.

They know exactly the potential effect of their language.

Now the question is, are the electorate going to allow themselves to follow sheep like, or are they going to put their thinking caps on.

crystaltipps Sun 29-Sept-19 08:10:26

So Farage saying he would “knife” civil servants is acceptable and not stoking / encouraging violence? Doesn’t look like a one way street to me.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 29-Sept-19 08:06:31

Don’t be silly lemon

gg3 is only reporting the news.

lemongrove Sun 29-Sept-19 08:03:03

The only ‘tensions’ on here are being stoked by threads such as this, where using emotive language against any poster who voted Leave to vilify them goes on.
You should be ashamed of yourself for starting this thread.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 29-Sept-19 08:00:50

Oh I’ve just posted about this on another thread.

Yes this spread of project fear will be recognised as that by leavers won’t it?

They are very good at identifying project fear I believe.

99.9% of the population will not riot.

Those who do will be easily managed in the normal way the police deal with riots.

Absolutely no need for Johnson to get his pants in a twist.

Calm done dear.

crystaltipps Sun 29-Sept-19 05:34:21

Who are these promised pro Brexit rioters going to be targeting? Anyone foreign? Female MPs? Judges? Chilling.

growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 04:51:44

Unfortunately, the policy of Brexit Bullying seems to be spilling over out of parliament and the media to groups such as this, so I've been considering doing the same.

Maybe I could spend some time reading the works of Mahatma Gandhi grin.

On the other hand … hmm

GracesGranMK3 Sun 29-Sept-19 04:28:23

Increasingly MPs across the House of Commons believe Downing Street is considering using the Civil Contingencies Act 2004, which grants special powers in the event of a national emergency, as a way to override the so-called Benn act, which mandates the prime minister to seek a delay to Brexit if no deal has been struck with Brussels by 19 October.

While there is any chance that this is what Johnson and the Brexit Bullies in parliament and in the media are trying to do I am off this forum and any other social media where his followers can try and increase the tension. It explains the pseudo anger as far as I am concerned and if silence is the only answer for the time being - so be it.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/28/boris-johnson-invoke-civil-emergency-powers-brexit-deal