New hospitals anyone

Grany, there are people who still trust Tory promises?

The Tories have closed 66 maternity and A&E wards since they came to power. The opposite of what they promised voters.
Do not trust their promises now.

I've just checked - it was built in the mid 1800s.

We do need to fund nursing training again.

I presume that this refers to just England again?

One hospital near me in Wales is so ancient and antiquated I'm surprised it hasn't fallen down yet. Even a refurbishment would be good.
But then again, perhaps those really old buildings were built to last, unlike the rubbish that was built in the 1960s.

However, there always seem to be more than adequate staff at the clinics - perhaps that is preferable to working on the wards.

I can't say I blame you Solonge. I remember just before my mother died that there was a woman in the same ward who wouldn't be treated by "foreigners". She really was obnoxious towards some of the staff and it must have taken every ounce of professionalism not to retaliate.

Firecracker123, goodness...touchy. Fact: the Tories removed the bursary that student nurses received, approximately five thousand pounds a year. Nurses now have to pay the same university fees as other students. Result is that really people don't really want to train. Why spend thirty thousand plus, come out with all those debts for a career where the majority of staff earn under thirty thousand pounds a year for life? The Tories cut the numbers of medical students being trained. We now have a shocking fall in the number of home trained staff. Add to that the disaster that is Brexit where we have lost literally thousands and thousands of doctors and nurses who were made to feel unwelcome after the (non legally binding poll) by idiots telling them to go home! The NHS will now be going to various countries outside of the EU based in Asia and Africa and bring over staff on contracts based on three year stints. Apparently not exactly thousands queueing up either, realising that there is a hostile attitude to staff from overseas and a country that is fast becoming openly racist. Im a nurse and frankly wouldn't practice anymore, I couldn't in all honesty, look after some of the public.

As I remember, the Government announced a couple of years ago that there would be no more PFIs.

In Harlow, the plan is definitely to build a new hospital. Apparently, the old one costs over a £million a year just for maintenance. It was built in the 1960s, not to a very high standard, not long after Harlow was developed as a new town for London overspill. Since then, the town has mushroomed and serves a much larger area because small hospitals and units have been shut.

that shoud have been 'pouring' of course!

The money is to go to renovating crumbling infrastructure, at least locally. What we need is a new hospital, rather than puring the money into a badly managed Trust. And not a PFI one either, although I have not heard of any of those being built for a long time, they were a financial disaster.

Perhaps I have missed something - but what I heard in the interview was that the money is not for "New" hospitals at all, but for renovating and possibly re-building EXISTING hospitals - starting with six, which are mostly in London or the South of England! The remaining 46 are to be give "seed money" to "prepare plans" The point was made about the lack of staff, and this was claimed to be "being dealt with by previously announced measures". I agree that we do indeed have many Victorian hospitals which are mostly unfit for purpose. PFI was said to be NOT considered for this programme - however, Politicians are not renowned for telling the exact truth - so, decide for yourselves what you believe!

I think Matt Hancock is actually quite a decent guy and he's struggling with all the lies he's having to tell...

Living in the southeast where in my area we have 1,000 houses per annum being built there is absolutely no way that the existing hospitals and surgeries can cope. The just weren’t built to cater for these numbers. At the moment our GP surgery is being demolished to build a new one on the same site because there are now so many new houses and therefore new patients. Some old hospitals just aren’t fit for purpose and like rabbit warrens!

Theoddbird I'm not complaining at all about getting a new hospital. It's been on the cards for ages. It's desperately needed to replace the existing hospital and plans were already at an advanced stage, before the government's announcement.

What I'm complaining about is that this doesn't appear to be "new money" and the government is taking the credit without justification.

It just so happens that one of those hospitals is my local hospital and I've been following the saga for years. I really don't know what the story is with the other five hospitals, which it's promised will be built.

I missed the bit about explaining where the money is coming from. Is there any chance you could explain or give me a link.

There aren't many hospitals in the UK which resemble 5* resorts rosecarmel, although plenty of them do provide first class treatment and care.

The rules on diversity in public services are that people from protected categories have to be guaranteed an interview, if they tick all the boxes for the requirements of the job.

They cannot be turned down just because they have a disability, without consideration being given to the possibility of reasonable adaptations, although there is some evidence that they are.

However, they are not given any special favours when they get to the interview stage. It's a fallacy that they are or that public services have to fulfil quotas.

I'm afraid your husband was unlucky on the day or maybe there was somebody better suited for the job. Sorry!

While hospitals in the US are constructed to resemble 5 star resorts they don't provide 5 star healthcare-

So now people are complaining that we are getting new hospitals and revamped ones... Seems that whatever the government does people complain. It was explained where the money was coming from and about getting more staff...

Aprilrose, what a sad sign of the times, there is no wonder standards have dropped when people like your husband have to be overlooked for 'diversity rules' - that's shocking. You have my sympathies.

I don't suppose the announcement that Harlow is to have a new hospital (already planned) is anything at all to do with the fact that the seat is a bellwether constituency.

For a Blair’s faults, he did put money into schools and initiatives like sure start.

Just because Blair wasted money doesn’t make it ok for this lot to do the same. Some people think defending one flawed dishonest policy by criticising another makes it all ok.

No one is saying new hospitals aren’t a good idea. I’m just a bit cynical as to the timing and the honesty of this announcement. Surprising it’s not on the side of a bus.

I can’t see why a degree is necessary in the first instance. Before anyone shouts at me, initial training and SRN qualifications were a really good way of training and SENs could progress and move on to SRN. Additional specialist courses etc. would be an excellent way of progressing and developing skills and knowledge.

As with other professions, hoops have been developed the end result being that staff choose to leave and take up another career.

It’s about time our nursing staff are paid an excellent wage for the extremely stressful job they do

It already has a shortfall of thousands of staff, so I'm not surprised. Ads won't do much good, unless staff are treated better and training opportunities become more attractive.