Photographic ID needed for next GE

Why do people keep talking about voting online? How is it possible to vote online?

There have been - but they’re obviously not the posts I was referring to.

Surchenjin which is why there have been multiple posts sighting that postal voting needs to be overhauled.

Those with something to hide are doing it online or by post Firecracker

Only people with something to hide would object to Photo ID.

Hypocrisy from the left???

I no longer have a passport and I have never driven. I know other people the same. Especially older people who have also stopped driving or travelling.

Unless they accept a bus pass they will be excluding people. I think it is time for ID cards. Something I used to oppose but now see a need for.

When my daughter went to vote last time her vote had already been taken. Who knows how many others.

Why is it 'about time' Firecracker?

There is NO EVIDENCE that there is widespread voter fraud so why does the system have to be changed?

I've no objection to providing ID if it's necessary, but in this case it appears to be completely unnecessary.

About time in my opinion. I think everyone should have to carry photo ID. Obviously Labour and the lefties will protest par for the course.

In the 2017 general election there were close on 32 million votes cast.

From the EC site

"Headline figures from data on cases of alleged electoral fraud in 2017 are:

As of 31 January 2018, there has been one conviction which was in connection with an allegation of personation in polling stations.

Suspects in eight cases had accepted police cautions:

four were in relation to registration offences
two were personation when voting by post
one was a false statement on a nomination form
one was a return of election expenses."

How does this in any way at all justify ID for voting in person?

From the Electoral Commission

This is the year of the last General Election

www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/our-views-and-research/our-research/electoral-fraud-data/2017-electoral-fraud-data

Who votes online? I thought the only way we can vote in a GE or any election is in person at a polling station, or a postal vote which has been authorised beforehand. Never heard of anyone being able to vote online!?

The only photo ID I have is my freedom pass - so I hope that's acceptable. I don't drive and I'd resent the huge cost of a passport if I only used it to vote. I agree with trisher and think it has more to do with discouraging certain people from voting.

Worse than I thought
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/13/conservatives-accused-of-election-rigging-leaked-id-plans-voter-fraud

If they want to sort out voting, start with voters with disabilities.Too many people with disabilities find voting is full of obstacles. It's a shambles. www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-30920778

Two votes less then as neither my partner or I have photograph evidence as we don't have an up to date passport or driving licence and will not be forced into getting them. It smacks of Big Brother to me.....

What a good idea.

US voter suppression
www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/politics/voting-suppression-elections.html
UK voter suppression
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/22/about-750-people-denied-vote-id-trial-local-elections

I think this a cynical gimmick based on the same sort of system in the US. To discourage poorer voters. In the US ID is routinely turned down for trivial and deliberately obstuctive reasons.
There is a tiny amount of fraud with proxy & postal votes in the UK. More people have been disenfranchised in this country by not enough Presiding Officers and polling staff. I myself queued for a very long time and people behind me were turned away at 10pm a few elections ago (tempers frayed, believe me) and when voter ID was being trialled recently in the UK in a limited area 750 legitimate voters were turned away.

Maybe he should insist on all there being photographic ID for all directors of companies involved in shady tax dealings up and down the UK so we all know who sits behind them? I suspect his cronies wouldn’t like it though.

I imagine it will be poor people who will not have photo ID so it is in fact a way of stopping them from voting. If you can't afford a holiday abroad and don't drive what are you supposed to do? You won't have a passport or a driving licence. It's pure Tory grandstanding for political gain.

I have POA for my daughters financial affairs and believe me it was difficult enough for her to open a bank account in her own name. No utility bills with her address, no passport, no driving licence or bus pass. She lives in a very rural area and uses a wheelchair. Tell me easy will it be her to get ID or even afford it. As I said, a scam by Boris.

Just to set the numbers in context - how many people voting in person do so fraudulently compared to those voting by post or online?

Totally agree that it is postal/proxy voting which is more problematic and needs an overhaul.

Anything which helps to prevent voter fraud under any circumstances has to be a good thing.

As I posted earlier, it is more difficult to pick up a parcel from the PO than vote which IMO is wrong.

We have photo ID for bus passes, places of work, colleges/Universities and many other institutions. Surely being able to prove who you are and your right to vote can only be a good thing, and would help stop the allegations of electorial fraud which seems to occur more often of late.