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Boris Johnson and his lies

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Dinahmo Sat 19-Oct-19 15:19:29

The independent think tank UK in a Changing Europe has today found that Johnson's deal would reduce GDP per capita by between 2.3% and 7% over the next decade. This compares with May's deal where the estimate was between 1.9% and 5.5%. They also suggest that a deal would hit public finances by £16bn and £49bn.

Today in parliament Johnson promised that high standards on workers rights an environmental protections will be maintained.

The political declaration can enter UK law but it is only a statement of intent and he can therefore promise the ERG that, if he wins the next election, he will set aside the political declaration and pivot towards deregulation and a sweetheart deal with Trump. The purpose of the ERG is to deregulate at home in order to strike trade deals with the US and emerging markets.

Would someone please explain why he should now be trusted when he has lied throughout the whole of his career. After all, leopards don't change their spots. It would take too long to list all his lies, but here's some, as a reminder:

1. When suspended from the cable car across the Thames, the mechanism apparently failed. Of course, it was deliberately stopped and he claimed it failed for a good photo opportunity.

2. In his manifesto for the London Mayor election he promised that he would ensure that there would be manned ticket offices at every train station. he then agreed to widespread closures in order to fund 24 hour tube trains

3. Also in his manifesto he promised to eradicate rough sleeping - it doubled during his tenure

4. He lied about the reason for proroguing parliament

5. He repeated his lie about the EU regulating the shape of bananas

6. He lied about there being no press when he was at GOS Hospital

Now for the money wasted whilst mayor on vanity projects:

1. Feasibility study into the Garden Bridge - £52 million

2. Cable car £24 million

3. Boris bikes £225 million (original idea Ken Livingstone but BJ implemented it)

4. Water cannon £323,000 - not allowed under UK law, unsold and now scrapped

5. Estuary airport feasibility study £5.2 million

6. Olympic stadium conversion to football pitch for West Ham - £305 million. The club was supposed to contribute £153 million but in the end it only paid £15 million and now pays annual rent of £2.5 million.

7. Routemaster hybrid buses £321.6 million - superseded by the introduction of electric buses. It's USP is now defunct because the doors at the rear "hop on hop off" platforms are closed in moving traffic (and that includes at walking pace)

A few of these projects had small amounts of sponsorship money but most of the costs were funded by the tax payer

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 08:41:24

Johnson’s donors club not paying the workers the minimum wage

leftfootforward.org/2019/10/migrant-workers-at-boris-johnson-donors-club-balloted-for-strike-action-over-pay/

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 08:37:21

A PR stunt by Johnson that badly backfired

video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1189939060875419648/pu/vid/640x360/eCZen2NtMnTxrR7C.mp4

Labaik Fri 01-Nov-19 00:07:02

jura2; it was by Rob Merrick in the Independent....

Dinahmo Thu 31-Oct-19 22:19:32

WWM2 That's very good to hear. I watched the new but all that I saw was stuff about microwaves. To be honest I was hoping to see a reactio from the staff.

Labaik Thu 31-Oct-19 21:13:01

jura2; I'll try to find it but not sure if it was a link or something I found by googling; sometimes I can't copy a whole article, especially if there are pictures in it....

Whitewavemark2 Thu 31-Oct-19 21:03:35

Bozos first election outing backfired spectacularly today.

He had the nerve to suggest that the NHS is safe in his hands at Addenbrookes Cambridge today , but the doctors and nurses were having none of it. He was booed off the site.

They wouldn’t tolerate his lies.

jura2 Thu 31-Oct-19 20:28:53

can you disclose the source of that link Labaik? Thanks.

Labaik Thu 31-Oct-19 19:54:36

Part of what I read...
'The chair of the UK Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee on Thursday accused the prime minister, who led the campaign to leave the European Union, of sitting on the report, which was sent to him weeks ago.
Member of Parliament Dominic Grieve said that his committee had sent the report on Russian influence on UK elections and referendums to the prime minister two weeks ago, but Downing Street had failed to sign it off.
He called on Johnson to allow its publication before the UK goes back to the polls in the upcoming general election.
"The Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament, of which I am the chair, has been investigating the threat posed to this country by Russia," he told the House of Commons on Thursday.'
...oh, and he was boo'd out of Addenbrookes Hospital today but the BBC haven't reported it [I believe....]...

jura2 Thu 31-Oct-19 18:05:55

Isobel **y Oakeshott on QT again tonight?!? Why is this traitor being asked again? She must be asked about this report on Russian interference Johnson is sitting on- and that she has hidden from the public for a VERY long time- even worse- to make money.

Wretched woman.

SirChenjin Thu 31-Oct-19 17:39:42

I would have been very surprised if the Government’s internal audit has shown that procedure hadn’t been followed so close to an election when the morals and behaviour of the PM is currently coming under close scrutiny.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 31-Oct-19 17:25:58

I am not a Boris Johnson fan, but like to be fair

Labaik Thu 31-Oct-19 17:14:35

Yes; I've read about that, too.

jura2 Thu 31-Oct-19 17:07:04

We must ensure this is publicised and that we ask MPs, the Press and TV, to ask for it- again and again. If he refuses- hopefully some people will come to their own conclusions and vote accordingly.

Nonnie Thu 31-Oct-19 16:37:21

Not sure if this is the right place but I have just read that there is a report on Russian interference in the 2016 ref which was given to BJ on 17th which he was supposed to sign off for publication on 28th but he hasn't. Laura K has retweeted it so I have to assume it is true.

jura2 Thu 31-Oct-19 11:46:24

NHS off the table, did he say? Best watch Dispatches tonight- here is a taster:

www.facebook.com/177564195204/posts/10156669157630205/

I hope no-one will suggest that the NHS is not political!

Labaik Thu 31-Oct-19 11:29:50

If it's a remainer parliament it's because most MP's do, actually want what's best for their constituents and the country; and so it should be.

absthame Wed 30-Oct-19 21:30:14

This parliament should be known as the cowardly parliament as its members have generally been too reluctant to act independent of their party's position, with very noticeable exceptions.

If labour, conservative and Lib dems ps acted in the national interests rather than their party's or their own interests we would have better governed and a more united nation than we are now.

Nonnie Wed 30-Oct-19 09:50:35

Maizie I'm more cynical that you. We keep being told it is a 'Remainer parliament' and I suspect it is true. They just don't have the gumption to up and say so, to defy their bosses. Surely they must know the impact? We have to assume a level of intelligence, don't we? Imo it is about their jobs, where else is it OK to fall asleep when you are working? grin

MaizieD Tue 29-Oct-19 19:58:42

It's also because there aren't the numbers in Parliament to support a referendum.

However, it's Labour policy to renegotiate the WA and then put it to a referendum. That's about the best we can hope for, if Labour were in power (probably by way of a coalition) after a (the?) GE.

varian Tue 29-Oct-19 19:54:44

In our corrupted democracy public opinion counts for nothing. For more than two years the majority of UK voters have wanted to remain in the EU.

Dinahmo Tue 29-Oct-19 14:52:36

humptydumpty It's because Johnson is scared. If he wins the GE he'll be in power for 5 years at least. Assuming he has a decent majority he'll ride roughshod over the country. There will be no more money for the things that he's promised and the people who've suffered the most during the years of austerity will be just as badly off.

humptydumpty Tue 29-Oct-19 13:11:58

I feel particularly angry that latest polls suggest that more people want a referendum than want an early GE:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50206341

and yet the government isn't even entertaining the idea.

Labaik Tue 29-Oct-19 12:12:02

Well, when thousands of us march through London no one listens to us. But they do listen to the groups of people that say they're going to march but then decide not to [probably because there are so few of them...].

SirChenjin Tue 29-Oct-19 12:05:41

I agree humpty

humptydumpty Tue 29-Oct-19 12:00:53

I feel that all of this has nothing to do with the general population at all; it's as if we are all bystanders looking on.