For brexiters only please.

I’m not sure of hate mail about Margaret Thatcher is relevant btw

I wonder which of the vile tweets and emails come from the extreme Brexit side versus those who oppose. I would suggest the balance is not equal.

In the interests of balance crystaltipps, let’s add the not so polite threats of John McDonnell to lynch Esther Mcvey and turn back the clock to assassinate Margaret thatcher......no doubt they slipped your mind!

We are talking of GN posters crystal not the country at large ( although I suspect you are fully aware of that and just wanted to snipe.)

Oh those impolite remainers- They obviously haven’t learned please and thank you unlike those super polite leavers who write those polite death threats to MPs . Who are always squealing about sweeping generalisations made about them? Pot and kettle spring to mind.

Of course not suziewoozie and it obviously didn’t work with the remainers did it? I’m intrigued that the lack of politeness on their thread put off most of the brexiters though apart from a few brave souls!

Saying please doesn’t make an order acceptable

@Joelsnan me too and sausage rolls.

Sounds like you need the Remainers special thread Painting ?.....they are all comforting each other this morning.

You have had three years to study the subject of why many people voted to leave the EU.

Screaming for more time but Labour ran out of MP's to contribute to debate and most MP's not bothered about debating at all.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1194124/Brexit-news-video-Commons-debate-UK-EU-deal-Boris-Johnson-agreement-latest

Has anyone else noted the word ‘please’ on this thread title and no such politeness in the remainers only thread?

Brexiteers only! Sounds like you need to comfort each other.
Surely you couldn’t be wrong.
I actually came on here in the hope that someone would enlighten me as to the advantages we are all going experience.
Well someone has talked about how we all managed before we joined the EU. Yes, we managed but we didn’t prosper. I am 78 and have a good memory. I also voted for my grandchildren and we had lots of discussions and listened to all debates, read newspapers and ignored the Daily Mail and Sun. So Brexiteers I am still waiting for reasons why you are so optimistic.

If Brexit is such a great idea one wonders how many EU companies will relocate to the U.K.? I don’t mean EU companies buying up assets - there’s plenty of those already.

Joelsnan haha?
And I would even bake a few cakes for them ( containing a pep up ingredient)

Opal and Joelsnan The UK has a specific opt out from joining the Euro. Where is there any evidence of a hint that the UK itself might give up that opt out? It would need coercion from the other member states, but the UK would have a veto on any attempt at coercion. This really does appear to be unfounded scaremongering.

Joelsnan in regard to your post @23:27 yesterday, you state correctly that under Johnsons present withdrawal proposals workers rights will revert to British government control which can be changed in any election. However, should Britain " genuinely wish" conclude a trade agreement with the European Union such legislation will have to be in alignment with EU workers rights regulations, so to write those guarantees into the withdrawal agreement would make sense.

The above is the reason why many political analysts both in and outside of Parliament believe that Johnson has every intention of taking Britain out of the European Union with no deal.

You also speak in your post @23:27 yesterday Joelsnan of manufacturers returning to Britain so as to shorten supply chains but you state that at a time when one in three manufacturers and their suppliers are moving their operations into European Union member states.

The reason for the above is the threat of Britain leaving the EU and therefore it will no longer be part of a free open market of four hundred and eighty million people but will become a much smaller closed market of sixty eight million people.

Indeed the only reason my company has now opened an operation in Europe is for the sole reason that two of our longterm customers have moved large parts of their business operations into the European Union under threat of Brexit.

In regard to other Just in time transport operations (JIT), 40% of Britains fresh food comes into the United Kindom through the channel ports on a seamless daily basis. Britain could not grow that fruit and vegetables in winter unless our growers were to use huge amounts of generated heat and light in enormous glasshouses. So, where would be the reduced carbon footprint in carrying out such an operation?

Media links to above:-
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/01/one-three-uk-firms-activate-plans-move-operations-abroad-no-deal-brexit-iod-survey

www.independent.ie/world-news/nearly-800-billion-of-assets-moved-to-europe-due-to-brexit-uncertainty-37688158.html

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-02/great-brexit-insurance-migration-shifts-75-billion-from-london

newnanny
I think they should be locked in until it’s done, something like when the Vatican is voting in a pope.
I would be happy to supply tea and sandwiches.

Grandad1943
Workers rights will revert to U.K. government post Brexit. If we do not like the way the government is handing them then we can just vote them out which we cannot do with any EU legislation unhelpful to us.
Don’t forget EU employment law is just U.K. employment law that the EU adopted.
In many instances U.K. exceeds the requirements of EU law.
Also as mentioned before. The EU has offered no protection to employees now working zero hours or working the gig economy. Many of these low paid employees having to compete for work with EU citizens who come to work here because even on minimum wage they are still better off than in their own countries.
BTW
Wouldn’t it be better to ensure frictionless supply chains if the parts industries were repatriated to U.K., and located close to the assembly plant where they really should and used to be? Surely this would enhance ‘on time’ deliveries as well as reducing carbon footprints and provide jobs? Or is it better to keep feeding the industrial profiteers by using cheap Eastern European labour and pretending to keep people in work here?

Parliament accepted 2nd reading of Bill but now it looks like they will try to add wrecking amendments to bill. No doubt Bercow will allow them all to be voted on. Let us hope Macron will only agree a week delay at most. What makes me feel sick is that there is a photo of the commons nearly empty after screaming they need more time to debate the bill.

Sky reporting France will only allow a very short technical delay.

421 posts on this thread of yours aprilrose

Only 98 on the Remainer thread.

I think Remainers are goady so they prefer this one! They don’t want a nice supportive thread (like we did). I agree with lemongrove they want to barge in her for some argy.

Joelsnan, in regard to your post @21:36 today, you state that the withdrawal agreement now before parliament is Theresa May's withdrawal agreement with minor changes. However, that is not the case as the guarantees on workers rights etc were written into Mays Bill but are not in the current proposed legislation brought forward by Johnson.

Johnson informed the House of Commons on Saturday that he would guarantee those workers rights, but when the full documents were published yesterday no such guarantees had been written back into them.

It is being stated that Johnson has promised the ERG group that those rights would be reduced or removed from workers in the planned eventual no-deal scenario, and that is how those hard-right Tories in the House of Commons came to support this withdrawal deal.

Disgusting lies by Johnson once again.

I’d just like our country to be happy after Brexit. Suvpccesful in whose terms? 6th 7th 8th 9th on the world stage ... Who cares? Someone (a Remainer) said at the beginning of Brexit negotiations ‘we will end up being like Guernsey at this rate’.

All I could think was ‘so what?’ Guernsey seems a great place, happy in its own skin.

How much did the government spend on the “get ready for Brexit on October 31st” advertising campaign? Money well spent even though the ads told us nothing - complete farce more like.

Opal - we are not as successful as you may think. We are the 5th (or 6th and soon to be 7th) successful economy, mainly down to the service sector and much of that is decamping to Europe. However, in the list of a country's ratio of GDP per capita we are 23rd. One reason is because a lot of wealth is syphoned off to tax havens. The reason for this is tax avoidance - pure and simple. And this is the reason that we have increased poverty. So, we are not as successful s you might think.

Greece is struggling because they used a large tranche of EU money to reduce the pension age of state employees to 52. The age for most people is 55. Their population is aging and they made no allowance for that. In western European countries the retirement age is increasing because of the longer life expectancy.