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Fact Checks

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 08:04:10

Our elections and referendums have been characterised by lies, innuendo and hyperbole.

Fact checking is the way to go.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 08:13:25


Article in the Daily Mail


The Tories plan to take on 6000 more police officers at the cost of £750million.

Correct - this covers police salaries as well as the cost of recruitment and training.


Labour have committed to train 10000 police officers at the cost of £3bn


Labour costed this at £770 million over 5 years in 2017.

The Daily Mail has corrected its article .

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 08:18:44

Johnson repeats the false claim that the Brexit extension will cost £1bn a month


A 3 month extension will cost the UK £1bn a month


The UK would still pay that amount under Johnson’s deal if it had left on the 31st October.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 08:19:11

If anyone wants more detail of a claim etc, I can provide it.

growstuff Fri 01-Nov-19 08:47:04

Whitewave it might be a more productive use of your time to go and bash your head against a brick wall. I'm afraid facts are just so "last year". Too many people are only interested in confirmation bias.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 08:49:33

grow I live in hope. Will probably die in despair though.

growstuff Fri 01-Nov-19 08:53:25

It can be seen even on GN. Even Dominic Cummings has admitted that the £350million figure was more or less plucked out of thin air and was misleading, but time and time again somebody will pop up on GN (and elsewhere) and use the figure as justification for leaving the EU.

I could produce a very long list of things people believe in, but are actually not true, but it doesn't appear to make any difference. VoteLeave won the referendum because it appealed to emotions and prejudices, which was a deliberate strategy. Cummings, Gove and Johnson knew that people aren't interested in boring facts and figures, so they appealed to populist gut feeling. It was a gamble and they won. Cummings has even bragged about it.

Yehbutnobut Fri 01-Nov-19 08:59:02

Keep up the facts WW those still capable of logical thought appreciate this.

yggdrasil Fri 01-Nov-19 09:24:01

Yes I support your efforts WW. We need these facts pointed out over and over again, till it does penetrate at least some closed minds

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Nov-19 10:20:53


Johnson claimed that 40 hospitals will be built.


The government has actually only committed the money to upgrade 6 hospitals. Up to 38 hospitals have been given money for planning building work after 2025. No actual building work will begin

Nonnie Fri 01-Nov-19 10:28:18 Sorry, I am putting it on all appropriate threads in the hope that those who need to see it will.

Labaik Fri 01-Nov-19 11:28:42

I'm afraid people just have tunnel vision.

grapefruitpip Fri 01-Nov-19 14:08:57

Fact....they come over 'ere and take our jobs. They get to the top of the council house lists.

Well it is isn't it?