And next it's Alex Salmond

Not at all - it’s all yours

Ah one of those are you...who must have the last word ???

Indeed.

Nonnie yes, that is the correct word - goaded. Just walk away. There are none as blind as those who will not see.

and I refuse to be goaded too. I've said what needed to be said and I haven't been listened to so I'm not doing that again. I suspect this thread is about to die because many don't like this sort of thing.

I suppose it’s easier to do that than to respond to the points raised.

I reiterate that I do not respond to those who misrepresent me no matter how they try to justify it.

Earlier posts

No-one has misquoted or misrepresented you Nonnie - again, please point to where I have.

You continue to claim I have mentioned wrongful convictions and I’ve already asked you about that and other claims in earlier threads . Again, no response. You have mentioned that it happens to men - no-one is doubting that but you’ve consistently said that women should simply bat men away and you’ve refused to acknowledge that women are on the receiving end to a far greater extent - instead you choose to focus on the men. You claim that wrongful allegations are on the increase but can’t show stats to support that. You haven’t answered my questions about what you think could happen to conviction rates and women in court re wrongful allegations. The list goes on.

I’m quite happy to stop debating this with you but don’t make spurious claims about being misrepresented and misquoted - your words are quite clear in black and white on the screen.

Jane10 I have not disagreed with SirC I don't know why I am being argued with, I am simply saying it happens to men too. What on earth is wrong with that? Of course I persist when someone is consciously inferring I have suggested something I didn't. I have been accused of mentioning 'wrongful convictions' which I didn't and the responses imply I have no sympathy with women affected which is entirely untrue. I am fair minded and accept that abuse happens to men as well as women. What is wrong with that?

Thanks yehbut you have read what I wrote and recognised the truth of it. I will no longer engage with someone who is determined to misquote me and misinterpret me. I don't behave in that way and have no time for those who do.

No, report it as per the forum guidelines. No running to teacher, no claims of hounding, just an appropriate response to deal with something you obviously feel very strongly about.

Don’t be ridiculous! Go running to teacher! No way, just call you out on it. Of course you would say that!

There is no ‘hounding’ - but if you believe there is please report it as per the forum guidelines.

Leave Nonnie alone. She has made a valid point and doesn’t need or deserve this hounding.

I dint understand why you're persisting in this Nonnie.
SirChengin has given us chapter and verse on how bad the situation is for women. It deserves to be taken seriously and without a whole lot of 'yesbuttery'.

What other part of the quote would you like me to use?

SirC if you are going to quote me please use the whole quote.

I have not compared what happens to women to what happens to men! For goodness sake read what I have said. I don't think I can put it any plainer!!!

Nonnie - I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make as you seem to be going off on tangents.

We all know that more men commit suicide, but where do you get the figures that show "the suicide rate is often suspected of being because of mental abuse by women?" I'd love to see that, because there are numerous reasons for men commiting suicide as shown here www.england.nhs.uk/blog/tackling-the-root-causes-of-suicide/

As for "Why do you think men are not abused by women?" - please point to where I've said that? However, you need to keep that in perspective by looking at the figures re attacks on women that I posted above. I wonder why you keep focusing on men and how unfortunate it is that women don't simply bat away the men when the stats show very clearly that women are disproportionately affected and the reasons for that are clearly defined.

SirC what have I not answered? How have I disagreed with the figures about women? I haven't. On various radio programmes I have heard many times that men are much less likely to report than women. I would have thought that was pretty obvious. I have even heard Jess Phillips say that!

The males suicide rate is often suspected of being because of mental abuse by women. I know of one which definitely was, his brother told me. I have personal experience of a woman hurting a man physically and mentally to the extent that I heard the social worker get angry with him for not reporting it to the police.

Why do you think men are not abused by women? I am simply stating facts. Are you deliberately misunderstanding me? Please read my posts again but with an open mind. Thanks

intimidatory

And that's just reported figures. If we accept that none of the women on here who have experienced assault/intimadatory behaviour/abuse/etc are lying and none of us reported it we begin to get a sense of how low the reported figures are in comparison to the lived experience.

Set that against the following:

The conviction rate for rape and attempted rape in Scotland has fallen to its lowest level in eight years, according to new figures.

The latest official statistics show 39% of those taken to court were found guilty, down from 49% in the previous year.

The conviction rate is the lowest since 2008/09 when it was 37%.

The 2016/17 figures show a 16% rise in court proceedings from the previous year (251) but a drop in convictions.

Although those convicted dropped from 105 to 98, this was still double the number of a decade ago (49) when far fewer cases made it to court.

Nonnie - you said "I think there is also an increase in wrongful allegations" but you've been unable to point to any statistics or facts which bear that out. You've also not answered any of my points I raised in my previous post - instead you choose to focus on the men and blame the women for not simply pushing away these predators.

I'll reiterate what sarahcyn and Jane10 have said. 10 women and 14 charges. I'll also quote some facts from Rape Crisis Scotland.

Recent global prevalence figures indicate that about 1 in 3 (35%) of women worldwide have experienced either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime. (Source: WHO Factsheet on Violence Against Women (updated January 2016) at www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs239/en/

Most of this violence is intimate partner violence. Worldwide, almost one third (30%) of women who have been in a relationship report that they have experienced some form of physical and/or sexual violence by their intimate partner. (Source: WHO Factsheet on Violence Against Women (updated January 2016) at www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs239/en/

In 2018/19, 2,293 rapes and 133 attempted rapes were reported to the police in Scotland (Source: Recorded Crime in Scotland 2018-19)

In the same period, 13,547 sexual offences were reported – this was an increase of 8%, from the 12,487 sexual offences recorded the previous year (Source: Recorded Crime in Scotland 2018-19)

While figures for many crimes in Scotland are going down, for sexual offences they continue to rise. Sexual crimes have been on a long-term upward trend since 1974, and have increased each consecutive year since 2008-09. Sexual crimes are at the highest level seen since 1971, the first year for which comparable crime groups are available. (Source: Recorded Crime in Scotland 2018-19)

Yes 10.

Ten women. Ten.