Farage and Johnson make my skin crawl - ah well if we are at it ...

Hmmm, all Conservatives I see jura ?there’s a pattern there from you.

This.... Sturgeon, Corbyn, McDonnell, Gove, Farage, Soubry,
Ken Clarke, Bercow, Richard Burgon ( just for starters.)

yep- there is a pattern there, for sure.

And yes, it is linked to our respective values and morality, for sure.

Well Dominic Raab or Matt Hancock don't bother me at all, but Michael Gove and Pritti Patel (she always looks so smug) and Ester McVey (far too pleased with herself) give me the heebie jeebies; Jo Swinson is just a little too strident and jolly hockey sticks for me and I find Diane Abbott's delivery is sooo hard to listen to (so slow). I'm sure there are many more, lets face it there's plenty to choose from!

I could never look at Rory Stewart without cringeing, but he wasn't too bad on HIGNIFY on Friday night.

Never mind making your skin crawl. This would definitely frighten the horses!

Anyone see the programme on Cavaliers and Roundheads? Apparently the Civil War divisions are still alive and well. Most people are a mixture but tend towards one or the other. Boris and Farage are definitely more Cavalier. Corby and McDonnell are Roundheads.

Here is Boris when he has won the election.

Nothing to do with morality jura and let’s be honest here,
You have never voted Labour in your life, but are so incensed about us leaving the EU you want another go to vote against it, which is what Labour are offering.
No Socialist conversion for you!

I must add to my little list ( there’s none that will be missed tra la)
Barry Gardiner
Dianne Abbott
John Ashcroft
Laura Piddcock
And a particularly smarmy Conservative MP called Julian something or other who surfaces now and again at PMQ’s to smirk and say something in an oily voice.

the policies of those you vote for are indeed a reflection of your own beliefs and morality, for sure.

How do you know about my voting history? But where I previously lived, in several locations, meant that due to FPP, my vote would go straight in the bin- and it did. I was not expecting to vote for labour this time- as I joined the Lib Dems.

?? I forgot how nasty, bullish and pedantic those that frequent the News and Politics Forums are...silly me!

Never mind Poppyred. There are plenty of other forums on GN.

www.gransnet.com/forums

PS. I'm not sure why but I keep mixing you up with Peonyrose.

Dominic Grieve- yuk!

Oh yes
Dominic Grieve! Him of the spoilt toddler looks.

Dominic Grieve- the most honest politician around today- and my absolute hero.

For the spoilt toddler look, you really need to look at Raab, for sure.

But back to morals- yes, you've just proven my point. Thanks.

I've never seen a toddler who looks like Dominic Grieve.

I'm adding Mark Francois to the list.

Matt Hancock has that "spoilt toddler look" about him, but I don't think he's really to blame … he's just out of his depth, as is James Cleverly.

Dominic Grieve doesn't make my skin crawl at all. Only what he says.

It’s the aggrieved look growstuff the ‘it’s not fair!’ ....not saying he actually looks like a toddler ( how strange would that be for a grown man?) ?
jura he’s your hero for one reason only.....he wants to stamp his foot and say ‘I’m not leaving the EU, so there!’

Why is James Cleverley ‘out of his depth’ ?
I can see various shadow cabinet members that plainly are mind you, including the tall blonde in glasses and the blonde with the weird eyebrows who always flank Corbyn wherever he goes.Dianne Abbott has been out of her depth too ( for a long time.)

Because he's rather slow witted?

lemon ''jura he’s your hero for one reason only.....he wants to stamp his foot and say ‘I’m not leaving the EU, so there!’''

it is about his reasons, his grasp of the consequences of No Deal or leave. Nothing about Grieve is about foot stamping or ...so there either, for sure.

That's a bit of an understatement Dinahmo! It would be unkind to call Cleverly thick as mince, but … well … I'll try to think of something kinder .

I've never seen Dominic Grieve stamp his feet. What I've seen is a calm, rational, intelligent politician, with whom I disagree on almost everything except his insistence that parliamentary procedure is followed fairly and legally. He's what I expect from a Conservative politician and I have every respect for him.