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Climate change how important is it for you in this election

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Tooting29 Wed 27-Nov-19 06:55:16

There has been much in the media this week about climate change and the environment. Which party do you trust on this and how much will it influence your vote

Callistemon Sat 07-Dec-19 14:33:07

What worries me is that for every step forward there is a step back.

Electric cars will need batteries
Batteries need lithium
Lithium mining is bad for the environment
Batteries need cobalt
It is proposed to mine the ocean beds for cobalt
What does that mean for the oceans and the creatures that live there?

We just don't have a clue what we are doing

Granny23 Sat 07-Dec-19 13:52:38

The first Country in the World to declare a Climate Change Crisis was ...........SCOTLAND.

It was announced by First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, at conference in April 2019. I know because I was there. The cheering and applause went on for ages.

bingo12 Sat 07-Dec-19 13:08:25

I have vote for the Green Party today by postal vote. I studied their extensive manifesto this morning at about 5 am as I did not know who to vote for. It's called tactical voting. I may have posted too late as post isn't collected from box until Monday 9th 54/Dec. My choice was - Cons., Lab, LDs, Brexit, a Christian Party and Greens.

Grany Sat 07-Dec-19 10:31:42

Nicola James ??#HandsOffOurNHS Retweeted

Juliet Brown #JC4PM ?
@JulietB270880
This is huge! Labour is the Greenest party ??

Friends of the Earth saying that Labour has the strongest policies to protect nature & combat climate change.

Just another reason to #VoteLabourDecember12 ?

Labour 'beats other parties on climate change'

twitter.com/JulietB270880/status/1203230153108840448?s=20

MaizieD Thu 05-Dec-19 12:38:49

What if our government suddenly had some sort of epiphany on climate change

We have a government in waiting that wants to do a lot of those things, NanaMacGeek, But..but.....but...Marxist, you know. Can''t have that, can we...?

Urmstongran Thu 05-Dec-19 12:08:53

I don’t think the topic will influence Jeremy Clarkson’s vote.
?

NanaMacGeek Thu 05-Dec-19 11:59:59

What if our government suddenly had some sort of epiphany on climate change and rapidly phased out gas and coal powered fuels, diesel and petrol driven cars, banned the building of new homes that were not carbon neutral, instigated investment in making existing homes more carbon neutral, banned the use of private aircraft and dramatically increased the use of public transport, planted billions of trees and declared that the meat industry will be phased out in the next 5- 10 years? How effective would that be?

We may cut our carbon emissions in the UK but we sit on the edge of a huge continent. Unless other European countries make similar sacrifices, we will have made very little difference. If we were really serious about slowing climate change, we would want to increase our influence in Europe and work from within the EU, not cut ourselves off.

I don't understand how anyone can think we can tackle global climate change on our own, so believe that any UK political party that wants to distance itself from our closest neighbours can't be taking climate change seriously.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Dec-19 09:59:58

They may say so Gonegirl but I am pretty sure Trump has said he didn't and Boris is a man in Trump's image.

Gonegirl Thu 05-Dec-19 09:44:54

Everyone believes in climate change now.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 05-Dec-19 09:21:47

Boris doesn't believe in climate change, does he?

varian Wed 04-Dec-19 18:32:11

Yet there are still folk like those interviewed on a recent tv vox pop saying "I voted leave because we shouldn't be giving all this money to the EU. We should spend it on the NHS"

The interviewer never ever points out that the huge weight of evidence from expert economists is that we would be much worse off and have much less money to spend on the NHS if brexit is not stopped.

We have been so badly let down by the media, not just the Tory Press, but by the TV companies, especially the BBC.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 04-Dec-19 10:08:52

We do, at least have the NHS, free at the point of use.

Not for long if we swap our trade deal with the EU for a trade deal with the US.

See my report of "Todays" fact check on www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1269944-Brexit-Tory-minister-admits-US-will-be-able-to-increase-price-of-drugs-bought-by-NHS at 09:45:48

M0nica Tue 03-Dec-19 17:46:34

rosecarmel I understnd your priorities. We do, at least have the NHS, free at the point of use.

But after that climate change, climate change, climate change.

Jane43 Tue 03-Dec-19 14:25:32

It is very important to me but unfortunately we do not have a Green Party candidate to vote for.

Callistemon Tue 03-Dec-19 14:23:57

Plaid Cymru have interesting policies should I live in Wales

They have twelve members in the Welsh Assembly

It is Labour who have a majority with 29
Conservatives 11
UKIP 7
And the Lib Dems just 1

They seemed to have trouble finding candidates for this GE too; they only have 11,500 members.

Gonegirl Tue 03-Dec-19 13:08:20

Righto.

Yehbutnobut Tue 03-Dec-19 13:01:07

No, Brexit will take years unless we go for a Customs Union. It is possible to do two or more things at once.

Gonegirl Tue 03-Dec-19 11:47:01

Oh Hetty! I only meant we have to see this country through brexit first. I am well aware of climate change thank you. hmm

Alexa Tue 03-Dec-19 11:37:35

I would vote for the Greens candidate if they had a chance.But they don't, Not in this constituency. As it is I will vote tactically to keep Tories out and because I positively like Margaret Becket.

Hetty58 Tue 03-Dec-19 11:36:07

Gonegirl, 'Saving the planet will take longer' - but we don't have any time left to slow down the destruction of the planet. Saving it is no longer an option!

Yehbutnobut Tue 03-Dec-19 11:31:32

rose that decision will depend on where you live. If you live on or near the coast, a river system, a flood plain, land that was previously reclaimed from the sea then climate change is your first priority. No question.

If you have invested in property in Buxton you are probably ok for now. If you live in the Brecon Beacons, Snowdonia, the Grampians or similar you might want to invest in a boat in case you become an island! The latter is probably your safest option as all the (British) refugees from Southport, Brighton and other coastal resorts will be fleeing inland so you can just pull up anchor.

rosecarmel Tue 03-Dec-19 01:48:24

Climate is second on the list- Health insurance is number 1- Today- Tomorrow the two may be reversed- I can't decide ..

Yehbutnobut Mon 02-Dec-19 23:30:23

Let’s understand this. If something isn’t done our grandchildren will suffer. As David Attenborough clearly spelled out on TV last night we cannot reverse it but we might, only if coordinated action is taken now, slow down the process.

I’ve read the manifestos and definitely the Green Party’s is the best by far, but they don’t stand a chance. The SNP have a good grip but sadly I live in England. Boris couldn’t give a damn, Farage even worse. Oddly enough Michael Gove has a good grasp of the issues.

of Plaid Cymru have interesting policies should I live in Wales but I have to say I like Labour’s joined up thinking on the economy, farming, transport, house building etc and the way these are all linked to environmental protection and jobs.

Callistemon Mon 02-Dec-19 23:30:10

Our Lib Dem candidate was far more impressive than Jo Swinson, M0nica.
However, she will probably not get elected.

Callistemon Mon 02-Dec-19 23:27:34

It was certainly a point brought up at the hustings I went to this evening although there was not enough time for each candidate to speak in depth about anything.
They all had strong views on the way they would tackle it, some practical others less so.