Tory Racism

Patel is the instigator of this unpleasant “othering”

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Thanks, 15C too?.

If you want an excelent novel about how Jews were treated in Portugal read The Last Kabbalist of Lisbon by Richard Zimler it brilliantly details what life was like for Jews during the persecution.

Agreed.

BTW, antisemitism is tragically not new and happened over time in many parts of the world. We visited Pitigliano in Southern Tuscany last year, for instance. The guide explained:

''the Jews and Christians of Pitigliano had led a peaceful coexistence. In the 16th century, Count Niccolo Orsini IV, a member of the feudal Orsini family, ruled Pitigliano, an independent fief whose inhabitants were mainly peasants. Although he was Catholic, he thought Jews, mostly bankers and artisans, could help revitalize Pitigliano’s lagging economy. So, while Jews in places like Umbria and Lazio were imprisoned or exiled, in Pitigliano they worked as moneylenders, carpenters, cobblers and tailors.
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That good will changed somewhat after the Medici family, which was appointed by the Pope, came into power. In 1622, the Jews in Pitigliano were confined to a ghetto; men were required to wear red hats, and women red badges on their sleeves. Still, the relationship between Jews and non-Jews was friendly; in 1773, the liberal Catholic Grand Duke of Tuscany, Pietro Leopoldo, officially recognized the Jews of Pitigliano, which meant they could come and go as they wished. In 1799 the ghetto was desegregated, and by 1850 there were about 400 Jews in town, roughly 10 percent of the population. But 11 years later that population began to shrink when the Jews of a unified Italy were granted equal rights and allowed to move freely about the country. Many left for Florence, Rome and elsewhere''

I believe that both Antisemitism and Islamaphobia are condemned equally among just minded people in Britain. However, the right wing dominated National Press has used antisemitism as a weapon to beat the Labour Party with, therefore making it appear that Antisemitism is more prevalent and widely condemned.

The problem is, I believe, with Chief Rabbi getting involved in the way he has, that should the election be a close result, the extremes of either left or right may play that up as being a key aspect in the ballot.

In a nation that is already politically badly split, there is undoubtedly some very dangerous ground being trodden in this election.

I would really recommend listening to the broadcast I mentioned on the The Jewish voice thread.

This is the first time I have heard someone with true gravitas speaking out against what the Chief Rabbi and, more in his case, the Archbishop of Canterbury, said and didn't say and when they chose to say it. I can't believe we have seen so little challenge to this "racism against one group is worse than racism against another" we are hearing.

None of it should be tolerated but it is - by the right of Judaism, politics and old media.

jura2 interesting isn't it. I think it's partly because we all carry a collective guilt, partly because before WW2 many were anti-semitic (interestingly it was the Labour Party who led the fight against this-Cable Street), and because of the holocaus,t which some actually knew about at the time. Islamaphobia was rampant in the 15 and 16th century but not really in living memory and so comes further down the list.

perhaps more than just 'colour'

Very good point, jura2. Don't see the rampant defenders of white Jews on here defending brown Muslims.

GGMK3 - same question to Annie- and others.

And there is a fundamental question here- and perhaps some will find it very difficult to answer ... and the thought process say a lot about it

why is antisemitism so abhorrent

and

Islamophobia, somehow, not so much?

Racism is racism.

So it is Annie so why don't we see you speaking out against Islamaphobia in the Conservative party (and other far-right parties), or the "hostile environment" created by the Conservatives while in government or the Conservative Immigration Act 2016.

It wouldn't matter if all the LP members were angels going round wearing halos you would find something - not cleaning his halos perhaps - tfor you to use to pour your usual vitriol over him. And yet, and yet, nothing on any other form of race hatred or religiophobia. The hypocrisy is patently obvious.

I'll leave this here, as well.

Tories probe candidates over anti-Semitism claims

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50700874

Further evidence has emerged of the rampant Islamaphobia in the Tory Party and also that senior members of the party are acting in support of a number of Tory Candidates standing in the forthcoming General Election who are alleged to have made disgusting racist social media posts.

Guardian Report on the situation begins here:-
At least four ministers have gone on election campaigning trips to endorse Tory candidates facing allegations of Islamophobia since the claims against them came to light, the Guardian has learned.

In constituency visits that appear to contradict Boris Johnson’s repeated claim that the party has a “zero tolerance” stance on the issue, Sajid Javid, Matt Hancock, Andrea Leadsom and Thérèse Coffey have thrown their weight behind the accused candidates – all of whom are fighting in key marginal battlegrounds.

Incidents include one candidate who argued that Muslims have divided loyalties, as well as blaming immigrants for bringing HIV to Britain, and another who retweeted posts from former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson.

Johnson himself has also posed shaking hands with a Conservative candidate accused of sending an anti-Muslim tweet to Nobel Peace prize winner, Malala Yousafzai, 22. It is understood the photograph was taken after the party became aware of the tweet.

The disclosures came as the Tories face increasing pressure over Islamophobia following a slew of revelations, with the Equality and Human Rights Commission considering whether to launch a formal investigation into the party.

Full Guardian report can be accessed by following this link:-
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/06/tory-ministers-back-candidates-accused-of-islamophobia

Anniebach WHEN has Corbyn lied?

As evidenced in another thread, FAR more racism in the Tories. Not that any racism is appropriate. BUT one party is worse.

So let’s ignore anti semetism in the Labour Party because they have a large number of members plus the trade unions and criticise the Tory party because they have fewer members .

Racism is racism.

me neither

I don’t trust Johnson or Corbyn

Another twenty five Tory party members have been suspended from the party following increasing media interest over the matter of racism in the organisation. That scrutiny is long overdue in the eyes of many.

Exert from a Guardian Report begins here:-
The Conservative Party has suspended a number of its members pending an investigation after a dossier suggested they had posted or endorsed Islamophobic and racist material online.

Twenty-five sitting and former Tory councillors were said to be among those named in the documents, which were obtained by The Guardian.

The party said all of those found to be Tory members had been "suspended immediately, pending an investigation". The disclosure will increase pressure on Boris Johnson to hold an independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the party, rather than a broader investigation into prejudice within its ranks.
Guardian report ends here.

I am wondering how long it will be before these people are quietly readmitted to the Tory Party to once again join its rampant highly racist ranks

Link to the Guardian full report on the matter can be found here;-

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tories-suspend-25-party-members-over-islamophobic-and-racist-online-posts-a4285746.html

Wish there was a thumbs up on here Grandad1943

Yet another senior Councillor has been reinstated to membership of the Tory party despite carrying out gross Islamaphobia.

Report from the Metro begins here:-
The Conservative Party has been criticised for ‘quietly reinstating’ a councillor who made a series of Islamophobic posts, including the claim that British Muslims are ‘breeding for Islam’.

Councillor David Abbott was suspended in April for his anti-Muslim statements in Facebook groups, in which he referred to British Muslims as ‘Mohammedans’.

In another Facebook post written by Mr Abbott, he wrote: ‘Moslems are commanded to do everything in their power, including killing, to rid the world of every person who does not follow Islam.’
Report from the Mero ends here.

And some claim that racism is only found in the Labour Party or it is much greater in extent in that organisation. If those allegations were not so gross they would be laughable.

Link to the full report from the Metro of the 21st November can be found here;-
metro.co.uk/2019/11/21/conservative-party-slammed-quietly-reinstating-councillor-made-anti-muslim-comments-11197712/

pinkquartz Quote] Corbyn is not a socialist he is communist.
Socialism is needed but not available at this time ]End Quote.

pinkquartz, Jeremy Corbyn could be a Communist or even an extream Right-wing Facist in his personal politics, it would make little difference to the Labour Party.

Policy for the whole the Labour Movement is set by the Annual Delegate Conference and then overseen on a day to day basis by the National Executive Committee, and that policy is at this point in time socialist.

Got It.

Fair enough pinkquartz. As long as you're not a Tory or a faragist. I'm not adverse to the Greens. Have voted that way myself in the past. I AM a great supporter of JC AND feel that it is necessary to get the Tory strangle-hold off the UK. If they were less of a threat, I would probably be more pro-Green.

Gaga

It's ok, no never ever right wing.

Pantglas2, really? Can you provide a link? ALL of my social / familial circle is left-wing and I've never heard anyone spout that POV.

NO !

I VOTE GREEN or I will spoil Ballot Paper. I have to decide which

I have looked up the correct way to spoil a Ballot Paper.

I AM NOT RIGHT WING.