Will the remainers admit defeat?

I accepted "defeat" on the day after the referendum. It doesn't man that I accept that it was a good decision, so I won't be "putting a sock in it", as you so charmingly express it aprilrose.

In fact, with that kind of post I could be persuade that you are indeed all "old, ignorant, gammon, swivel eyed , uneducated and didnt know what we voted for".

This morning I am admitting defeat in a lot of things that have mattered to me all of my life.

Well Aprilrose you still don’t know what you voted for because it’s all still to be decided, you have no idea what the final outcome will be.

You are right of course Chestnut but I think it is too early for them to accept that fact.

Some will STILL maintain that leave voters are all raving racists.

I am so grateful that the result went the way it did

Well..... "Will the remainers admit defeat?"..... clearly not as they are still trying to make any excuse for the result rather than admit they are the losers and need to respect the views and feelings of the winners ( four times now).

This time though, to quote the PM, remainers need to " Put a sock in the megaphone" The Conservatives won an a brexit ticket. The voters in their constituencies ignored the Labour distractions. Those who wanted to remain, both those who jumped party like Grieve etc. got well and truly trounced and Jo Swinson lost her seat too - she went to battle on the "Stop brext" ticket and now we know what her constituents thought of that along with the others. Liberal Democrats lost a number of seats.

So, now the sun is shining again, as it was on the day after the referendum. Those of us who have been insulted, ignored, told we were old, ignorant, gammon, swivel eyed , uneducated and didnt know what we voted for have won again , so put a sock in it now remainers.

"Last night many voted on the basis that they want Brexit delivered, with their feet."
That what it seems like to me now, oldgimmerl.
Rather than other reasons such as popularity of the leaders.
It could still be not as straightforward as our 'ruler' proposes, even though now he has a good majority in Parl.

I just think there has been so much fighting to thwart Brexit from remainers over the last three years, not only in Parliament but everywhere, which is why we were in such a mess and had such a deadlock. The problem has always been that we have a mostly remain parliament and mostly leave voters, so Parliament was not willing to deliver what the people voted for.

Most votes went to anti-Brexit or neutral parties. Only a minority of votes were pro-Brexit. This is why Johnson went for an election rather than a referendum. I know this counts for nothing, but Leavers should have the humility and courtesy to acknowledge that although they are going to get their way, they are almost certainly in a minority.

I disagree with you, Bluebelle.

I'm a remainder and also accepted the result back in 2016.

I also think if there were to be another Referendum, we would've voted to leave again.

I compare the Brexit "democracy" argument with the establishment of the Welsh Assembly years ago. The turnout was woefully low, the margin tiny. As tiny as it gets.

No-one seems to be moaning about that being undemocratic, though.

In my opinion at least, democracy about choice. We are lucky to have that choice. People chose to vote, or not, and as they wished but STILL people moan about the result.

Last night many voted on the basis that they want Brexit delivered, with their feet.

It’s not a question of admitting defeat, remainers believed that staying in EU was best for the U.K. . There has been a Withdrawl agreement, an election and we are going to leave, regardless of our opinions we will make the best of the new direction.

The negotiating now starts on trade arrangements and regulations, at present we have no idea how that will go, hopefully, with a large majority BJ will be able to get sensible agreements. The extremists in parliament will not be able to hold him to ransom, which is a big step forward.

The main gripe apart, from the small majority, is that the whole referendum process was fraudulent - but that has all been swept under the carpet.
I just hope that the effect of leaving the EU will not be as bad as we fear.

Labaik - You can believe whatever you want, but in a democracy we have had a vote and have to abide by the result. I voted to leave but if remain had won then I would abide by that result.

Some people in this country want to leave the EU. A lot of people still believe that doing so will harm it. No one has the right to tell me that I cannot believe that. I am not part of your collective 'we' Chestnut, just as I do not believe every American supports Trump. And congratulations by the way. You have probably brought about the end of the Union...

Because only a few of you do want to leave 17.000,000 out of 70,000,000 doesn’t add up to a democratic result