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GagaJo Fri 13-Dec-19 21:53:51

Brexit will not get done by 2021, EU chief negotiator admits in leaked recording that blows hole in Boris Johnson promise

Exclusive: Michel Barnier’s bombshell private admission directly contradicts PM’s ‘get Brexit done’ slogan

Brexit trade negotiations cannot be finished in the timeframe claimed by Boris Johnson, the EU’s chief negotiator has privately admitted – blowing a hole in the prime minister’s big election promise to “get Brexit done”.

In a leaked recording obtained by The Independent, Michel Barnier tells a private meeting that the UK’s 11-month timetable to wrap up trade talks by 2021 is “unrealistic” and suggests negotiations will drag on until long after the end of next year.

“With regards to this agreement, we will not get everything done in 11 months. We will do all we can – we won’t do it all,” Mr Barnier can be heard telling a group of senior MEPs at the closed meeting in the EU capital this week.

The recording sparked consternation from Mr Johnson’s critics back in the UK, with the prime minister accused of “lying to voters” about Brexit and “playing the British public for fools”.

Mr Barnier, who was recently reappointed to lead the next round of Brexit talks for the EU side, told the meeting: “It is unrealistic that a global negotiation can be done in 11 months, so we can’t do it all. We will do all we can to get what I call the ‘vital minimum’ to establish a relationship with the UK if that is the time scale.”

He added that without a further extension of EU rules and regulations to Britain of one or two years there would be another “cliff edge” that could see Britain crash out on World Trade Organisation rules.

“If there is no extension, we will still have a few months to achieve what I would describe as the minimum necessary for the economy and security or to prepare for a cliff edge,” the chief negotiator said – adding that the decision would have to be taken by the government in June, just over six months from now.

“Either we have a trade agreement or we will be in the WTO framework. We can’t take contingency measures on trade to give us more time … If there’s no deal, it is a cliff edge for trade.”

Far from ending the saga, the tape shows that EU officials are planning for contentious talks to stretch on for years in much the same vein as they have since 2016.

Mr Barnier has publicly entertained Mr Johnson’s claims about timescales, in the apparent belief that the prime minister is the best hope for getting the withdrawal agreement through parliament. But in Brussels and other capitals the fact a free trade agreement cannot be negotiated in 11 months is an open secret among officials – as illustrated by the new tape.

We will not get everything done in 11 months. We will do all we can – we won’t do it all
Michel Barnier, EU chief negotiator
On Wednesday, giving his final address to voters, Mr Johnson said he would “deliver on the result of three years ago and then move on, focus on the people’s priorities”.

He claimed that arguments about Brexit would end by February – when the new round of talks would just be starting – and that the government would be able to “focus on the issues that matter to you”.

A spokesperson for the Conservative Party declined to comment on the revelations in the recording, but opposition parties reacted with fury.

“This confirms what we knew already, Boris Johnson is lying to voters about his damaging Brexit plans,” Liberal Democrat candidate Tom Brake told The Independent.

“He is taking the British people for a ride and simply cannot be trusted to be our prime minister.”

Labour’s campaign chief Andrew Gwynne meanwhile said: “Boris Johnson is playing the British public for fools. He’s hiding in fridges to dodge interviews precisely because his fake Brexit slogans can’t stand up to scrutiny, just like his empty words on the NHS.

“Johnson’s sellout Brexit deal will put us on the fast track to a cliff-edge no-deal Brexit. And that’s exactly what he wants, so he can drive the UK into a toxic trade deal with Trump and put the NHS up for sale to US drug companies.

“The only place Johnson’s sellout Brexit deal should go is into the deep freeze, just like Johnson when he doesn’t have the guts to face a reporter.”

EU leaders will meet in Brussels on Thursday and Friday this week for a summit without Mr Johnson, where they will discuss the next stage of Brexit talks and unveil their negotiating strategy and new instructions to Mr Barnier.

The strategy, which is due to be published just hours after polls close in the UK, shows talks will be much the same as before – led by Mr Barnier, with a string of make-or-break summits, and a new ticking clock and cliff edges, according to an early leaked draft revealed by The Independent last week. Leaders also conspicuously dropped a reference included in an earlier political declaration to use best endeavours to reach a deal by the end of the transition period.

The prime minister was also this week accused of misleading voters after he repeatedly claimed there would be no checks on goods crossing the Irish Sea under his new deal – when in fact there would be.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-delay-boris-johnson-deal-general-election-eu-barnier-leak-deadline-a9242346.html

MawB Fri 13-Dec-19 22:01:09

Oh for goodness sake
Horse ?
Dead ⚰️
Flogging
A lengthy cut and paste - tell us something we don’t know.
I think most people will be aware of much of this - and out of courtesy, Michel Barnier is normally addressed as Monsieur or M.Barnier. .

GagaJo Fri 13-Dec-19 22:03:37

Only cut and paste to avoid having to use the dodgy link.

And I think you'll find many people expect it to be done by January.

Argue with the Independent MawB, re his term of address.

lemongrove Fri 13-Dec-19 22:04:18

Ridiculous gaga those are trade negotiations, we will be completing the first stage, the official withdrawal from the EU in Jan.
Negotiations on trade should take as long as they need to take and I really don’t think that part of it matters too much to the general public.Johnson wants things to move along quickly, and maybe they will.Impossible to say at this stage, the GE was only yesterday?

GagaJo Fri 13-Dec-19 22:05:46

Sure it was. BUT he's been there for months. And the Cons have been in for 10 years.

Get bloody moving, I say! But there is going to be a LOT more cack handed mismanagement.

Smileless2012 Fri 13-Dec-19 22:10:48

No one thinks it's going to happen over night!! It will take time but nothing was going to happen until we'd left so at least come 1st Feb. 2020 the negotiations can begin.

3.5 wasted years, just think how far on we could have been if there hadn't been those trying everything they could to over turn the referendum resulttchangry.

Chewbacca Fri 13-Dec-19 22:11:10

And I think you'll find many people expect it to be done by January.

Gordon Bennett!
In who's universe? Where have you seen or heard that that is the case? Who is "many people"?

hmm

Davidhs Fri 13-Dec-19 22:12:43

It never was intended to finish Brexit by January 2021 that’s just the end of the transition period, during that time agreement should be made on what happens in the short term about trade with the EU. The Withdrawl agreement provides for that, it’s going to be very complex because goods will come into the U.K. manufactured into a finished product which gets exported. Everything from ready meals and pork pies to cars and machinery, every single item has to be evaluated.

If we buy cheap beef from the US and make a steak pie exporting that to the EU will attract a tariff, repeat that for a few thousand products, and it will take a while.

JenniferEccles Fri 13-Dec-19 22:30:26

Never mind. It’s definitely going ahead so the awful uncertainty has gone.

You won’t spoil this lovely day with your miserable input.

jura2 Fri 13-Dec-19 22:37:50

The uncertainty has just started - this is not miserable- it is just fact- and not meant to spoil your lovely day.

yggdrasil Sat 14-Dec-19 08:00:48

nice to know someone is having a lovely day! Many of us, like Jura2 , cannot shut our minds to the facts

GagaJo Sat 14-Dec-19 08:03:35

I agree yggdrasil, BUT it's over. Time to move on. What can't be changed must be endured.