Dear Conservative Voters,

Coolio I don't believe UK is an "unpleasant land". Yes there are disagreements but that happens everywhere. I meet people everyday who are kind, friendly and helpful.

Varian
What is a “furriner” you said I had an attitude about on another thread?

I have only just looked back over previous pages.

Varian, I don’t go to bars and watch Sky news whilst walking past and looking at daily newspapers! You must know a few Brit expats. As previously said and a fact you ignored, I am married to a Portugeezer. We do not mix often with Brits. We live as the locals do. I hope your family when they choose their country to reside in, in Europe do this.

Summerlove, yes, it’s a different world today and it appears we all get our info from the internet young, old etc. Social media seems to cause the young problems bullying etc but who am I to say, I don’t do it and am not interested either. According To Notanan2 I am getting misinformed on here to! Too much info to correlate so best give up.

Notanan2, how you twist words and conveniently forgot to mention that I read it on this very site.

I am afraid I am time limited and do not have Social media etc to refer to. I live in a backwater. It’s quite a shock to return to the UK and see what an unpleasant land it has become. Generally intolerant with each other. Mouthy and mostly living like in a soap opera land. Here it’s calm, not run ragged.

Perhaps you could do with a few drops of where I am, and said in the nicest possible way.

notanan, I absolutely agree. As I said earlier It was a badly planned and badly organised cock-up by a mentally lazy and indolent PM. and that applied to the Remain campaign as well.

Well the leave campaign got away with saying what they liked un-challenged because there was no strongly led remain side to counter them!

No lies from me, I meet up with local Gransnetters. Cannot see the point of a "made up virtual persona"

It is one for the best back biting to stop, we are better than that . We are stronger than we know and nicer people than what we have become . We need to show the World just what we can achieve and I do think others will follow us .

The 2016 referendum was fraudulent, won by lies, cheating and foreign interference as has been conclusively proven.

The only reason it has not been annulled is because it was merely advisory.

The referendum of 2016 was not fraudulent. It was a badly planned and badly organised cock-up by a mentally lazy and indolent PM.

Ok coolio so you read on a (non phone as if that makes the info different) device, that someone on the internet said that someone on twitter said that youngsters go around saying "ok boomer" with significant frequency, and you repeat that as fact

In the same post where you say youngsters get all their info from their phones and dont know how to filter it

And you dont get why that earnt you what you call "sarcastic" replies, when your own ignorance and hypocricy is pointed out?

Yes, I have noticed their absence..

One aspect of forums like Gransnet is that none of us know anything about our fellow posters unless they disclose personal information, even then, of course it could all be lies.

I have been on GN for many years and am one of the GNetters who chooses not to divulge much personal information, so there is little point in me saying that I am the same Liberal Democrat who posted before the fraudulent referendum of 2016 and has continued to post since and I am not a bot.

I could challenge any poster in the same way , but who can prove anything. It is up to us all to judge which one of us sound's authentic.

That's true - perhaps they're sulking?

Who’s that Grannygravy13? The 3 I’ve not seen since the result are whitewavemk3, crystaltipps and MaizieD

I am now thinking that another GN poster could well have been "a bot" as they have not posted since the exit poll was released.

Varian Do you think you have a monoply of truth and judgement? Are we to look to you to know how to think on every subject?

How can we be sure that you are not in fact a fake news site controlled by the Russians? When I see how your style, language and views have changed from before the election I suspect that is must true.

Before the election you were a some what ernest, but a reasonable poster, claiming to be a lifelong Lib Dem and I often agreed with you.

Since the election you have been ranting about the result - but not the Lib Dem result, hectoring, unreasonable, and at times offensive and rude.

What can explain this other than that your posts on GN are written to a brief defined by another organisation.

I can think of no other reason.

Grany the British always love a loser.
That's why they will love Jeremy now!

it does however show your lack of understanding of the average teenager

Ha, I choked with laughter when I read that! You couldn't be more wrong.
There is no such thing as an average teenager for a start.

My own DC were always encouraged to think for themselves, resulting in a very diverse bunch of adults.
Moreover, this is the home their friends all came to, to enjoy our company too and when some were troubled, not for opinions but just for reassurance.

They still treat us as 'surrogate Mum and Dad', some being in their late forties now.

Perhaps you should spend some time living in an undemocratic country, then you'd know how absurd your view that this country isn't democratic, really is.

Who's being rude? I'll leave that for others to judge.

Remember the wise saying "It is far far easier to fool people than it is to get them to admit they have been fooled"

In this undemocratic country you do not need to fool all of the people all of the time, a minority will suffice.

Oh for goodness sake varian why don't you give it a rest; "the indoctrination that led their parents to vote for brexit".

I just hope that the next generation accept the right of others to disagree with them and vote as they wish, without being so judgemental, rude and offensive.

I do hope that secondary schools are teaching children how to evaluate different sources of news and information, how to spot bias and how to see the difference between truth and lies.

Fake news should be high up in the curriculum and children need to learn critical thinking. Otherwise the next generation will be prey to the indoctrination that led their parents to vote for brexit.

Coolio, I asked earlier, and you ignored the question, but seeing as the subject is back, where do you think young people should get their sources and information if not the internet?

I would suggest that a lot of younger people are far more tech savvy than us, and have no problem understanding which news sites are reputable and which ones are not.

It is never the young people on my Facebook who are re-posting ridiculous scam warnings.

That explains how ill-informed you are, Cooliac, although I might suspect that somewhere in the Algarve, you ventured into a bar that was showing Sky News or spotted the headlines of the Sun or the Daily Mail.

How else could a Brit living in an EU country ever have been persuaded to vote for this brexit nonsense?