Damage done to the UK ALREADY following the elction

The problem with having parliament elected by PR is that you have a perpetual hung parliament and nothing gets done, as we saw before the election.

Really? I don't see Germany, with a system of PR going through the mess we have had for nearly 10 years under FPTP. Your logic on that one seems perverse and contrary.

For heaven’s sake Summerlove give them a chance!

This party has been in power for going on 10 years JenniferEccles. How long would you like us to give them? Are you suggest 20, 30, 50? Just how long before we see some actual progress out of the mess they got us in to.

I agree Davidhs

Even though I was delighted that the Conservatives won so comprehensively, every government needs a viable opposition to keep it on it’s toes doesn’t it?

With Labour appearing to be stuck in the same faulty mindset I can’t see that happening.

The problem with having parliament elected by PR is that you have a perpetual hung parliament and nothing gets done, as we saw before the election. Or do we really want to be like Italy where PM lasts a year at best.
If a government is in power for 5 yrs it has a chance to improve the country, if they fail they can be replace by different ideas. In the UK having an inept opposition does not help at all

For heaven’s sake Summerlove give them a chance!

The election was only just over two weeks ago you know.

Meanwhile Labour is poised to select another leader who, like Corbyn will follow the widely rejected Momentum agenda.

They haven’t learned have they?

Cherylrov Wish you would get a life and stop moaning, the choice has been made live with it!

That’s just what people are doing, getting on, living with it and trying to make sure the govt follows through on election promises (hint? It isn’t)

The ardent Remainers will be blamed for a long time as and when things start to go wrong plus the pesky John Bercow and the dreadful Supreme Court for thwarting the will of the people/ After all, they were undemocratic!

I'm afraid you may well be right Varian. I wonder what or who those who voted for it will blame this time.

When a party supported only by a minority of voters gains a huge majority of MPs they have the power to ignore the legislature as most if not all of those party members selected and elected will do as directed.

There will be no checks and balances, except to a very limited extent in the House of Lords.

We have no democracy if MPs are elected by First Past The Post - we have what one illustrious Tory MP called an "elected dictatorship".

Jabberwork, they have a free vote in Cambodia but everytime its the dictator Hun Sen and his family who get in. Once in he changes the rules to suit himself and keep his power. Going that way here.

I think Johnson had said he wanted to do this. So that tiny flicker of hope has been blown out. The first target of a Dictator is the judiciary. I thought there were three arms of our democracy, the legislative, the executive and the judicial.

If the executive is taking over the judicial how long before they turn the legislative into a puppet government?

By having a free vote every few years to determine our government, which is more than they do in China!

Not for nothing is the system called the 'Just Us' (pun on justice) system. Get your crones in and you can do whatever you like.

Tell me again how we live in a democracy?

There's a great example of what will happen to anyone who dares stand up to this government and act to preserve our unwritten constitution. John Bercow the first speaker in 230 years not to be given an honour when he/she stepped down. Toe the line or we won't give you any sweeties!

So, the tories want judges to be political appointments.

Bang goes the independent judiciary, a cornerstone of our constitution.

I suppose that judges making 'political' decisions is absolutely fine when they're on 'your' side. It's just not so acceptable if their decisions go against you. Bugger the Law...

What a sad pass we're coming to...

More damage - Michael Howard wants the power of the judiciary curtailed. He thinks that the Supreme Court is biased and suggests that judges be appointed by the Lord Chancellor. Mind you, he does have a gripe since he fell foul of the courts on several occasions whilst he was a minister.

Wish you would get a life and stop moaning, the choice has been made live with it!

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@SuperJarv

27 Dec
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@Scotscouser

Gordon Duff and his intelligence team think it was fixed. He starts talking about it at 5:22

twitter.com/SuperJarv/status/1210544872043765761?s=20

It is truly sad that instead of interesting rebuttals to proven points it’s all name calling and ignoring of “hard questions”.

I suppose once you’ve “won”, the results don’t matter again until the next election.

Exactly BoB. The spitting venom doesn't get them anywhere. I just end up thinking they lack capacity. If so it's not their fault. Catch on to an out of date saying like "virtue signalling" and think it proves how clever you are. Sad really.

One thing I did hear this evening, and it will be interesting to see how it turns out, is that the government is going across government departments and setting up a form of citizens assemblies to decide on the future plans for farming. I can't find anything about it but it seems to be a bit of a trend.

Nowhere on this thread have I seen any poster who is happy with this new government give any sensible response to the questions asked e.g.

How do they feel about the back tracking on the number of nurses.
How do they feel about the NHS.
Pay risers for MPs
etc.

All I have seen is denial. My responses have been based on experience, especially the one on Social Benefits and care maybe those that are happy have private health care and will not have to worry about the NHS, maybe they have never had or know anyone who has applied for benefits. So please can we have some sensible responses from the doubters.

I really don't mind those with different political viewpoints. But the sheer nastiness of some posters on here really does show how easy would be for Britain to sink into the morass of extreme-right cruelty, USA style (caging of refugee children, allowing a known rapist to become a supreme court judge, encouraging the build-up of racism).

I thought the British were better than that.

Is there a single post on here from the right wingers that actually discusses the things in the OP instead of just criticising those who find the OP very worrying and disturbing? I think not. I can only conclude that either they are too ashamed to admit that these things are happening or are closing their eyes to them.

Hilarious!?
Virtue signalling and poor jokes, I wonder who you were in past GN lives growstuff ( although I have a good idea.)
Give it up! Sour left wing ranting has no effect on me at all.

Thank you GagaJo. I would have spent Christmas Day and Boxing Day totally on my own, so I volunteered with a local charity. It was an interesting experience and has left me emotionally drained and more angry than ever with some of the posters on here.