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Rough sleeper gives birth to twins outside wealthiest Cambridge college

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GagaJo Thu 26-Dec-19 19:35:15

Rough sleeper gives birth to twins outside wealthiest Cambridge college. Woman delivered premature babies in front of Trinity College on Monday

A homeless woman gave birth to premature twins while sleeping rough outside Cambridge University’s wealthiest college.

The woman, believed to be about 30, gave birth outside Trinity College. She was helped by members of the public, who called an ambulance, according to reports.

A witness told Cambridge News she had seen the new mother and her two children wrapped up in blankets inside ambulances when she cycled past at about 7.15am on Monday.

“They were all in the ambulances by the time I cycled past,” she said. “My workmate was first on the scene, and luckily Sainsbury’s was open early that morning and she ran in there for help.

“I’m hoping she gets given somewhere to live and the babies are ok. With what people are doing right now with Corbyn’s Christmas Challenge [a social media fundraising effort in response to Labour’s election defeat] what happened is very relevant to many people.”

Is rough sleeping getting worse?

The government claims rough sleeping in England fell for the first time in eight years in 2018, from 4,751 in 2017 to 4,677. But the body that oversees the quality of official statistics in the UK has said the number should not be trusted after 10% of councils changed their counting methods. Rough sleeping in London has hit a record high, with an 18% rise in 2018-19.

The numbers of people sleeping rough across Scotland have also risen, with 2,682 people reported as having slept rough on at least one occasion.

Shelter, whose figures include rough sleepers and people in temporary accommodation, estimate that overall around 320,000 people are homeless in Britain.

What’s being done about rough sleeping?

The government’s Homelessness Reduction Act 2017, which places new duties on state institutions to intervene earlier to prevent homelessness has been in force for more than a year, but two thirds of councils have warned they cannot afford to comply with it. In 2018, James Brokenshire, the housing secretary, announced a one-off £30m funding pot for immediate support for councils to tackle rough sleeping.

How does the law treat rough sleepers?

Rough sleeping and begging are illegal in England and Wales under the Vagrancy Act 1824, which makes ‘wandering abroad and lodging in any barn or outhouse, or in any deserted or unoccupied building, or in the open air, or under a tent, or in any cart or wagon, and not giving a good account of himself or herself’ liable to a £1,000 fine. Leading homelessness charities, police and politicians have called on the government to scrap the law.

Since 2014, councils have increasingly used public space protection orders to issue £100 fines. The number of homeless camps forcibly removed by councils across the UK has more than trebled in five years, figures show, prompting campaigners to warn that the rough sleeping crisis is out of control and has become an entrenched part of life in the country.

Is austerity a factor in homelessness?

A Labour party analysis has claimed that local government funding cuts are disproportionately hitting areas that have the highest numbers of deaths among homeless people. Nine of the 10 councils with the highest numbers of homeless deaths in England and Wales between 2013 and 2017 have had cuts of more than three times the national average of £254 for every household.

What are the health impacts of rough sleeping?

A study of more than 900 homeless patients at a specialist healthcare centre in the West Midlands found that they were 60 times more likely to visit A&E in a year than the general population in England.

Homeless people were more likely to have a range of medical conditions than the general population. While only 0.9% of the general population are on the register for severe mental health problems, the proportion was more than seven times higher for homeless people, at 6.5%.

Just over 13% of homeless men have a substance dependence, compared with 4.3% of men in the general population. For women the figures were 16.5% and 1.9% respectively. In addition, more than a fifth of homeless people have an alcohol dependence, compared with 1.4% of the general population. Hepatitis C was also more prevalent among homeless people.

Sarah Marsh, Rajeev Syal and Patrick Greenfield

East of England ambulance service told Cambridge News that paramedics went to the scene just before 7am on Monday. The woman and her children were taken to Rosie hospital, a specialist maternity hospital on the outskirts of Cambridge.

Research by the Guardian last year identified Trinity as the wealthiest of all the colleges in both Oxford and Cambridge Universities, with published assets at the time of £1.3bn.

A crowdfunding campaign set up to raise money for the woman decried Cambridge as a place of “extraordinary inequality”. Jess Agar, who started the fundraiser, wrote: “Imagine giving birth alone on the pavement, in the shadow of the richest college in Cambridge.

“Whether we are religious or not, many of us will be familiar with the Christmas story of a mother who gave birth to her child in poverty, seeking refuge in a stable. This is the reality for many people living on the streets.”

Contributors have so far donated more than £9,000.

uk.yahoo.com/news/rough-sleeper-gives-birth-twins-144402965.html

Hetty58 Mon 06-Jan-20 16:51:27

I don't find your conversation 'sensible' Janpt! It's just too convenient and simplistic to blame people for 'thoughtless behaviour'.

What are you really saying? All contraception has a failure rate. Should they stop having sex? Is that practical? Do you advocate abortion? Not everyone agrees with it. Perhaps you think that they should be forcibly sterilised?

Why do you resent paying tax to support children? Only a tiny bit of the benefit bill goes to large families. A lot goes to working families, indirectly to private landlords (even I resent that) and the largest group of benefit recipients are - pensioners! Would you like to limit that?

JenniferEccles Mon 06-Jan-20 16:52:43

Janpt I fear you are right when you said you are wasting your time with some posters on here.

I sometimes wonder if people argue for the sake of it.

You have said nothing controversial as far as I could see.

Janpt Mon 06-Jan-20 17:41:22

Hetty58 Don't be so ridiculous.

Janpt Mon 06-Jan-20 17:46:05

JenniferEccles Thank you for your continued support. I'm beginning to think that this whole web site is for left wing supporters. However judging by the ones who are standing for a future Labour party leader we can be assured of a Conservative government for some time yet.

Hetty58 Mon 06-Jan-20 17:50:24

Let's just hope that you and your loved ones never need any public services or support in the future, Janpt!

Janpt Mon 06-Jan-20 18:01:53

Hetty58 We'll probably have to pay for it ourselves if we do.

growstuff Mon 06-Jan-20 18:05:34

Did somebody give Tweedledum and Tweedledee too many wooden spoons for Christmas? hmm

Janpt Mon 06-Jan-20 18:19:59

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Bridgeit Mon 06-Jan-20 18:22:28

I think with respect Janpt that you would / should/ could be more than happy to ‘pay for yourself’ rather than live the lives of those who cannot.
( yes there are always folks who will work the system & that applies to those from all walks of life! )

growstuff Mon 06-Jan-20 18:34:02

I find you and your mate quite amusing in a weird kind of way.

growstuff Mon 06-Jan-20 18:34:49

Bridgeit They're not worth taking seriously. They're attention seekers doing this for effect.

Bridgeit Mon 06-Jan-20 18:38:26

Ohh ok Growstuff , thanks for the heads up,
Do grownups really do that ? Sad people ! No not sad , just Pathetic!

Sparkling Mon 06-Jan-20 18:41:38

Why is it right for anyone to bring a child into the world if they cannot provide properly for them. Why do you think the tax payer should,. There is no need to have children if you haven’t s home and a job. Children are a gift and not a right, the needs of the child comes first. I cannot understand this selfish attitude that the child doesn’t matter.

growstuff Mon 06-Jan-20 18:47:24

Bridgeit It would appear that they do. They might not be grown ups, of course. Some schools are still on holiday.

There have been 17 pages on this thread and homelessness and fecklessness have been discussed. The thread had more or less died a natural death until resurrected by a certain poster as a vehicle to sound off about the usual topics. By coincidence, her mate turns up and they start bouncing off each other and insulting other posters.

It's honestly not worth engaging with them. It takes all sorts, I suppose.

growstuff Mon 06-Jan-20 18:47:53

Wow! Another one!?

Barmeyoldbat Mon 06-Jan-20 18:53:59

Oh for goodness sake Spark.... haven't you ever heard of an accident conception? Contraception fails for one reason or another, taking antibiotics, rape and just plain ignorance. What should happen in these cases, forced abortion maybe.

Bridgeit Mon 06-Jan-20 19:02:55

Sadly Sparkling, although you are correct in what you say, the reality for so many (starting right back from their own beginnings ) is not conducive to the thought process you & I may think of as ‘An Obvious no brainer’

Janpt Mon 06-Jan-20 19:31:49

Sparkling Well said. That's the point I have been trying to make but they just don't want to hear it.

Janpt Mon 06-Jan-20 19:36:45

growstuff Bridgeit Just grow up. You give yourselves away every time you make a comment.

Sparkling Mon 06-Jan-20 19:38:15

It is so sad the way a whole section of our population seem to think someone else can fund their lives, they have no sense of responsibility or a moral compass, their children will grow up with the same non valued. I just hope it gets addressed soon.

GagaJo Mon 06-Jan-20 19:43:51

You know what would be nice? If they could JUST say, once, "Oh, that poor girl."

No blame.
No politics.
No nastiness.

Just one woman, having feeling for another women.

GagaJo Mon 06-Jan-20 19:45:04

You know what is REALLY sad, Sparkling, that you have no compassion for a fellow human. Very, very sad. HOW do you get that selfish?

Bridgeit Mon 06-Jan-20 19:45:07

Janput, can you explain what you mean please?

Callistemon Mon 06-Jan-20 19:50:09

growstuff yes, they have the right to privacy.

It would be good, however, to hear that the babies are well after their poor start in life.
Just a report without names or any details.

growstuff Mon 06-Jan-20 19:55:26

See what I mean Bridgeit? She obviously gets some kind of perverse thrill out of insulting people for the sake of it.