Are you or friends, children or grand-children or other loved ones- likely to be filed as terrorist?

vegansrock of course they won't be, although groups can be infiltrated as I said above, for motives other than the intended aims of the group.

These groups' logos were sent by the anti terrorism police to police forces to make them aware of different logos and have been removed from the report now.

Vegansrock
I notice you've conveniently forgotten the xr protesters climbing on the roof of a train at Canning Town holding up thousands of good honest folk just trying to get to work.

So the whole group shouldn’t be tarred with a terrorist brush if only one or two hotheaded individuals stray from peaceful protest. Seems totally disproportionate . We should strive to retain the right to peaceful protest without this intimidation.

lucywinter XR admitted to stopping an ambulance and apologised.

Why can people not see this is not about penalising people who stand by their morals and views, but smoking out those individuals who have alternative motives which could endanger lives and the Security of the UK.

I don't care what any poster comes back to say Opal. Anyone can say anything online. But I know XRers are ordinary decent people who are not out to do harm to anyone.

Dictatorship?

I think some posters on here ought to pay a visit to dictatorships to see what it actually means

We are not living in a dictatorship YET but we are slowly going this way. This is not about making us safe but stopping free speech and protest. I expect I will be carted off sometime soon as well, I belong to the League Against Cruel Sport and often go out watching on Exmoor. Also a member of then Labour Party. Oh dear no hope for me.

lucywinter a poster on the previous thread on this subject said her son was a doctor in the ambulance! I hope she reads this and comes back on this thread to confirm.

XR would not stop an ambulance getting through. Lies and more lies.

I think I asked for a link, do you have one please jura?

I don't have access to that information any longer MaizieD and, if I did, I would not disclose it.

If the Security Services have information on a Brexit Party Member which is substantial then yes they should be under surveillance and if warranted put on the list.

I do think this is "a storm in a teacup" reaction to something intending to keep the UK safe.

The terrorists and criminals modus operandi is constantly evolving, so the Security Services are always playing catch up.

I shall repeat what I posted earlier, it is not denying people free speech or the right to protest.

You could argue that any movement might attract a very small minority of extremists who may take matters into their own hands - Brexit Party supporters for example, there was one who stood on the roof of a train waving a flag and held up thousands of passengers and endangered staff - so should the Brexit Party therefore be seen as a terrorist organisation? Of course not. But following this government’s ideas maybe they should be.

So they can, Callistomen, but we've had years of experience of protest groups. Have they been infiltrated by any suicide bombers or knife wielding murderers?

Yes, after the last terrorist attack, the rules needed to be re-addressed urgently.

I think any government with sense would have done the same.

Probably.

Most activist groups, including those with the most altruistic motives, can be infiltrated by those with ulterior motives to cause maximum disruption and anarchy.

Opal, who is the 'we' - are you part of the Government and Priti Patel's department?

Not yet ...

Blimey, UK a Dictatorship, laughable.

We are not trying to stop all dissent and opposition, just earmarking the idiots that may endanger the lives of others. Enough of the hysteria, we do NOT live in a dictatorship .

Only bees I've got is in my wildlife garden, and I hate bonnets, or any hats come to that.

Remember when Apartheid was legal
When slavery was legal?
When women did not have the vote? (and yes, women did not have the vote in Switzerland when I moved to London- but they did in my Canton)
When racism and prejudices of all kinds were legal?
etc, etc, etc.

A country that attempts to stop all dissent and any opposition by putting activists on terrorism register- is a dictatorship - by definition.

I strongly believe that to stop an ambulance was wrong, 100% or any of the emergency services.

Why vegansrock ? Are you pelting passers by with Greggs vegan sausage rolls?

The aim of ER is peaceful protest and civil disobedience. They do not “terrorise” in the same way as suicide bombers or knife wielding extremists. I am sad that anyone would put them and the likes of Greenpeace in the same bracket. Peaceful protest has always been something we have tolerated and , indeed protected. Now it looks like anyone whose views you don’t like you can label as a terrorist. I’ll no doubt be carted off soon.

jura you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this subject, constantly saying we are in a dictatorship.We aren’t.
Greenpeace and Ext Rebell are labelled as protest groups, but if any go too far they need pulling up hard and fast.
Stopping emergency ambulances getting through to hospital would be an own goal for them, but if they are stupid enough to do that ( and cruel enough ) they need pouncing on.

This is not stopping protests, or inhibiting free speech.

It is the Security Services trying to stay one step ahead of terrorists, organised criminals and those wishing to target businesses and government with cyber attacks.

Couldn't care less if it was done by a Conservative, Labour or Lib Dem Government, anything that keeps UK safe is a good thing.