INDEPENDENCE DAY!

I wasn’t on here very often last October, but weird that you expect everyone to remember a post from 4 months ago.

How did the EU reduce your job security? If that is your criteria (& I think I it’s a fair enough one - just struggling to work out why ), then you’ll understand why me having to shut my business due to Brexit makes me less than enthusiastic about leaving.

How has the EU made your lives worse & more miserable? Some specific examples please

I actually addressed this back last October . Strange that I have to be asked this again and again. I am not going into a list. I have done that and it was clearly not enough for some. (is this vote and vote again until we, the minority , get the result we want?) .

I will simply say this time that as far as I and my family are concerned we now have job security ( my job has been insecure for a number of years in the EU and I lost jobs before that due to EU policies and their effects). My husband will also benefit. That means my child can look forward to less austerity too. I know other people like me.

I’m actually not remotely miserable. I get described as positive and optimistic all the time (I have a severely disabled person in my life - this gives people the right to frequently comment on your mood it seems & make all sorts of assumptions about how miserable your life must be )

However I am not delusional so am struggling a bit with finding the joy in Brexit.

How has the EU made your lives worse & more miserable? Some specific examples please.

I can pinpoint how austerity has made my life worse & more miserable in the last ten years (largely through the impact on my disabled son) & how Brexit has already made my life more miserable (largely via impact on universities which has already started to show) but I can’t think of how the EU has.

But the majority DIDN'T vote leave, did they? 37% of the British public voted for it.

I'm still waiting to hear how we will be better off, post Brexit. No one has answered that question yet.

I'll be celebrating if and when it turns out that things are much better for all of us in 5 years time

So you think all of us have benefitted under the EU - that is implicit in your statement I feel. The problem is that you have an unrealistic expectation. The majority voted to leave the EU because they had not benefitted from 47 years within it. Many of us, and I am uncluded in the number have seen our lives taken down, made worse, made miserable. There was no benefit for us in the EU.

Those who did benefit were in the minority. I would be happy ( and it is more realistic) if the majority of us are better off in five years time. I think that will happen too.

There will always be those who will not do well out of us leaving. Most of them I have met here. The are the rejoin minded of this forum. The miserable ones it seems and I do wonder how much of that misery is a predispositional thing rather than just a result of us leaving the EU.

I wonder how long this kakistocracy will last.

So what exactly do you mean by the word "Great"? Tell us all how Brexit will make Britain great. What tangible benefits do you want for your country? It's really seems fairly meaningless, but it's over to you now.

I live in a small Northern town which voted to Leave. At the recent election, a Tory was voted into office by people who normally would rather die than vote Tory.

At 11pm last night, there were fireworks going off. The majority of people in this town are very pleased and their choice at the ballot box has helped to bring this about.

I am not local and feel no affinity to these people, but for once, I feel at one with them!!

Now let's put the 'Great' back into Great Britain!. (and before some Nelly Know-all puts me right, I know very well that the word 'Great' refers to the size of the country!)

I'm not one of the locals but I join them in their

I read that Johnson celebrated by drinking a glass of English sparkling wine. They are good but how many people can afford them?

As it happens I dont drink alcohol at all. Thats a choice, not because I am an alcoholic ( I have had the latter said to me often, so I am pointing it out to you). I drink tea. Yes, I did have some tea which was grown here in Britain last night - some I had been given for Christmas. I know it was an expensive one but its once, not every day. Same goes for English wine. You dont drink and celebrate every day.

I had my tea drinkers party. Today is a new dawn and its stopped raining too.

So now,

Chestnut now I know the world has gone completely bonkers. Rule the bloody waves? How delusional when we are about to become just a very small country

Oh dear..... well how about "Land of Hope and Glory, MOTHER of the FREE!" Thats us! Now

I feel quite sad. I don't remember any great desire to leave the EU before Cameron decided to hold the referendum, and I was surprised at the result. I'll be celebrating if and when it turns out that things are much better for all of us in 5 years time.

But in spite of all temptations
To belong to other nations,
He remains an Englishman!
He remains an Englishman!

or words to that effect

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We're out !
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Congratulations everyone !
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Chestnut
Cheers!

Too much Bolly Chestnut?

Party poopers go to bed....this thread is for celebrating! ?
And for people who want to go completely bonkers as Ginny42 says! Now it's time for a dance.... ??‍♀️

I wish to record for posterity my utter objection to Britain leaving the UK. Isolated now, a friend of Trump, a madman with a blonde mop at the helm, causing huge damage to Ireland, the nearest neighbour.

SHAME ON THOSE WHO BROUGHT THIS ABOUT.

Chestnut now I know the world has gone completely bonkers. Rule the bloody waves? How delusional when we are about to become just a very small country.

I read that Johnson celebrated by drinking a glass of English sparkling wine. They are good but how many people can afford them?

Dollymac Johnson's words of wisdom are that there will be some 'bumps in the road'.

I feel very sad that my DGS will be classed a 'foreigner'.

Okay, I admit I'm getting a bit carried away but it only happens once!

Rule Britannia
Britannia rules the waves.....

You can have Harry.

He's looking for a job.

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And to you JE