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INDEPENDENCE DAY!

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Lyndiloo Thu 30-Jan-20 04:35:37

Hurrah! We're getting OUT at last!

But it seems strange to me that there is so little talk/news on the media about this. Before the General Election everything was about Brexit. To the point that even I got sick to death of it! But it's all gone quiet since then. Are there to be no celebrations from all those who voted to leave? (Sad that Big Ben won't even mark this historic event.)

(I was talking to a young woman the other day, and she didn't even know that we were leaving the EU on Friday!)

I can't really celebate in style, as most of my family wanted to remain -otherwise I would have had a party! So it will be a bit of a damp squib for me!

I shall still open a bottle of champers and toast this great country of ours - our democracy, our integrity - and now, at last, our freedom from a corrupt and self-serving feudalistic state.

Opal Fri 31-Jan-20 18:59:11

Just about to pour my first celebratory drink for the evening smile.

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 18:28:42

You are posting on the wrong thread varian. This is the one for people who want to celebrate Independence Day.
?????
There is another thread for all those wallowing in misery.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 18:28:12

twitter.com/glennthompsonbp/status/1223246562228416513?s=21

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 18:28:01

I suspect this diverse bunch will let you join their party. Not quite how they think stamping on the EU flag shouting ‘free shoe wipes’ is going to be interpreted by anyone who isn’t a Katie Hopkins fab, but there we go.

varian Fri 31-Jan-20 18:22:13

Never mind if most Britons are feeling gloomy. Vladimir Putin is having a good laugh.

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 18:06:08

This thread is a positive one about Independence Day but the gloom mongers still abound! ?

Labaik Fri 31-Jan-20 17:42:08

I read that Johnson went into hiding for several days after the referendum result having sided with something he didn't actually believe in and not expecting to win. But I can't verify it.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 17:28:40

All the good things about leaving the EU and she can manage to find something wrong with all of them.

I think you are letting your loyalty to an ideology make a fool of you. What you posted was simply not true.

Never mind. You have voted for a belief in how we are governed and really nothing more. I see tears ahead when you realise you will not benefit and nor will the country. This government is unlikely to give it to you when it's down to them. As we see on here, the right only just about tolerates the working poor; those who have been broken by life don't stand a chance although I will be happy to applaud if they do change their spots.

What will those who ran the crude press campaign do now and how will the great opportunist - never tell the truth when a lie will get you headline - Johnson actually do as PM. It's not as if he ever told us he was aiming for anything past getting us out of the club we had willingly joined.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 17:07:06

the answer is that a few posters have no idea of ‘irony’

It's it interesting that those for whom this isn't their strong suit often have most to say about it.

Labaik Fri 31-Jan-20 16:55:14

'Why go over it all. It's done dusted move on'
...but it ISN'T done and dusted. Can you not understand that it's only just beginning???.

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 16:37:19

I posted similar yesterday Barmeyoldbat and had my post removed as a personal attack on a poster which is against the rules! Just saying...

Barmeyoldbat Fri 31-Jan-20 16:24:39

Animous, time to cut out drinking gin. Go to bed and sleep it off.

Namsnanny Fri 31-Jan-20 16:19:30

Why go over it all. It's done dusted move on.

Namsnanny Fri 31-Jan-20 16:17:54

Maggiemay 7am ish yesterday..... THANK YOU magnanimous, gracious positive comments! smile

MaizieD Fri 31-Jan-20 16:06:57

All the good things about leaving the EU and she can manage to find something wrong with all of them.

That, Chestnut, is because there is something wrong with them.

The first is particularly laughable. Trade deals always involve some loss of sovereignty, for both parties. Bang goes 'self governing'...

Businesses free from bureaucracy? Tell that to the businesses that have enjoyed frictionless trade with the EU but who now will have to supply extra paperwork for everything they export..

All good things will come to those who wait.

I thought they were supposed to happen immediately? That's what all the Leave campaigners said. And what if 'good things' don't happen'?

Trotting out trite cliches just does not impress or convince.

Greta Fri 31-Jan-20 15:36:12

I agree with you, GrandmaMoira, I think the discord will continue. When leave voters who believed the soundbites ”Take Back Control”, Give Us Back Our Sovereignty” etc realize that these were just soundbites they will voice their anger. Also, people who were unhappy about immigration will feel betrayed when immigration continues. Those who lent the Conservatives their vote at the election believing that a northern powerhouse would be created will no doubt want to see results pretty soon.

There can't be any hiding now, no more excuses for not fulfilling all those promises. Just deliver your Golden Age, Mr Johnson.

vegansrock Fri 31-Jan-20 14:38:20

HS2 will take 10 years of EU contributions - where is the £350m a week of the NHS?

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 14:31:26

Wow! Trisher is an expert at turning a positive into a negative ?
All the good things about leaving the EU and she can manage to find something wrong with all of them.

All I can say is the good outweighs the bad!
But it will take time.
Don't expect miracles in the near future, just be patient.
All good things will come to those who wait.
As I said, remainers seem to be rather short-sighted.?

GrandmaMoira Fri 31-Jan-20 13:32:26

It's a very sad day and I believe the anger and bitterness that we have seen since the referendum will continue.

lemongrove Fri 31-Jan-20 13:31:02

Chestnut.....the answer is that a few posters have no idea of ‘irony’ ?

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 13:30:29

That's great Nezumi. It is so often those who were not around or were small children who quote the war so good to see some of our eldest citizens have their say.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 13:27:49

I was not pasting back the same sort of comment unless you think we were out of Europe after the 1970s. It is not your job to tell others how to post. Right now it seems to be no one's job.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:57:59

twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1223175366421946369?s=21

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 12:55:54

GracesGranMK3 What??? ? I've never been boss or claimed to be. Just wondering why you're criticising ananymous but then posting back the same kind of comments.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 12:48:27

Who died and made you boss Chestnut? I am well aware that there is little mediation going on on this thread - we have seen all the personal attacks from the leavers towards other posters. However, as far as I know, that's GNHQ's job, not those who see themselves as a lot better than they actually are.